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      10-16-2016, 04:26 PM   #111
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      01-07-2017, 12:19 PM   #112
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Hi all, Refreshing this thread as it has been a few months.

Has anyone heard when these will be available for 18's? I will need to replace my OEM staggered setup on my '16 428i GC soon, and I am hoping to hold off long enough to try these out. If not, I'll probably go with Pilot Super Sports. Thanks for any insight you can provide.
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      01-09-2017, 05:50 PM   #113
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Will these last longer than the PSS? PSS' 300 treadwear rating is a joke, two sets wore out just as quick as the previous PS2.
The traction test should be alongside a Dunlop star spec and Bridgestone RE71R instead of tires that the PSS already is ahead of.
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      01-09-2017, 07:54 PM   #114
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Will these last longer than the PSS? PSS' 300 treadwear rating is a joke, two sets wore out just as quick as the previous PS2.
The traction test should be alongside a Dunlop star spec and Bridgestone RE71R instead of tires that the PSS already is ahead of.
Strange. PSS's always seem to last a while with me (compared to other tires).

I wonder what we might be doing differently? I drive pretty aggressively, too.
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      01-11-2017, 05:15 PM   #115
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i would like to see a comparison between PSS and PS4 since those would be available in 18" from launch date.
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      01-11-2017, 05:40 PM   #116
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Feel PSS is already overkill on most cars. Glad Mich is looking into making them grip better for those of us with serious reaction issues though.
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      01-14-2017, 04:24 AM   #117
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It's on their US site now, albeit not a lot of information on that page currently:

http://m.michelinman.com/US/en/tires...-sport-4s.html
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      01-14-2017, 05:09 PM   #118
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Today I had the following conversation from the chat session of the above link:

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May i have the year, make, and model of your vehicle? Also your current tire size?
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btw z4 M roadster 2006 model
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I will be happy to check on that for you. Please allow me some time to research this for you.
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tire size front 225/45-18
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rear tires 255/40-18
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thank you
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No, it is not recommended.
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what are the sizes for 18"
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???
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No, we do not recommend the Pilot sport PS4S
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why not?
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We do not make that tire in the size that fits your vehicle.
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So to keep it short I guess it is not available for the 18" rims.
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      01-17-2017, 05:16 PM   #119
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Will these last longer than the PSS? PSS' 300 treadwear rating is a joke, two sets wore out just as quick as the previous PS2.
The traction test should be alongside a Dunlop star spec and Bridgestone RE71R instead of tires that the PSS already is ahead of.
The link posted below http://www.michelinman.com/US/en/tir...-sport-4s.html says

Experience added miles of exhilarating drives with 9% better treadlife than the MICHELIN® PILOT® Super Sport. 4
MICHELIN® Total Performance™ overcomes the usual tradeoff of wear for grip to deliver both incredible traction and improved tread life.

So sounds like they will last longer, but not much.
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      01-19-2017, 12:57 AM   #120
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Today I had the following conversation from the chat session of the above link:

Agent - Kadejah
May i have the year, make, and model of your vehicle? Also your current tire size?
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Visitor
btw z4 M roadster 2006 model
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Agent - Kadejah
I will be happy to check on that for you. Please allow me some time to research this for you.
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Visitor
tire size front 225/45-18
03:02pm

Visitor
rear tires 255/40-18
03:02pm

Visitor
thank you
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Agent - Kadejah
No, it is not recommended.
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Visitor
what are the sizes for 18"
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Visitor
???
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Agent - Kadejah
No, we do not recommend the Pilot sport PS4S
03:07pm

Visitor
why not?
03:08pm

Agent - Kadejah
We do not make that tire in the size that fits your vehicle.
03:10pm


So to keep it short I guess it is not available for the 18" rims.
Correct.

Only 19" and above.
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      01-19-2017, 12:58 AM   #121
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Feel PSS is already overkill on most cars. Glad Mich is looking into making them grip better for those of us with serious reaction issues though.
SportContact 6 still appear to grip better.
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      01-20-2017, 02:50 PM   #122
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SportContact 6 still appear to grip better.
Is this tire made in any kind of acceptable size range? Tirerack has 3 sizes listed. 3.

If true, the only grip it delivers is unicorn grip.
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      01-20-2017, 05:29 PM   #123
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Is this tire made in any kind of acceptable size range? Tirerack has 3 sizes listed. 3.

If true, the only grip it delivers is unicorn grip.

Lmfao, that shit had me rolling. I believe theres much more sizes available, just not listed on Tirerack. I've heard some great things about the Sportcontact 6's. But doesn't mean much, because I'm fairly certain they don't make them in my sizes. ( Comp pack 20's @ 265/30 & 285/30 respectively ) . Which leaves me to the mercy of Michelin . And its about time they make a new flagship tire, they are quite behind the competition these days. As far as extreme performance street tires go. Dry grip needs to improve, biggest issue with the current PSS . I'm fine with tread wear, wet drip, feedback could be a bit better, but I think thats more of an M problem than a tire problem. I really hope the new PS4S fall right between the current Super Sports and cup 2's. And waiting for some independents reviews and comparos. Not really one to fall for fancy graphs and numbers from the marketing geniuses at Michellin
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      01-20-2017, 06:02 PM   #124
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Is this tire made in any kind of acceptable size range? Tirerack has 3 sizes listed. 3.

If true, the only grip it delivers is unicorn grip.
Those are the Audi specific versions if you looked closely.

You must have missed this:

http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...&postcount=129

Also, a forum member in Nevada sold an OEM size set off his 437m F8x in the Classified section last month.
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      01-20-2017, 06:04 PM   #125
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Lmfao, that shit had me rolling. I believe theres much more sizes available, just not listed on Tirerack. I've heard some great things about the Sportcontact 6's. But doesn't mean much, because I'm fairly certain they don't make them in my sizes. ( Comp pack 20's @ 265/30 & 285/30 respectively ) . Which leaves me to the mercy of Michelin . And its about time they make a new flagship tire, they are quite behind the competition these days. As far as extreme performance street tires go. Dry grip needs to improve, biggest issue with the current PSS . I'm fine with tread wear, wet drip, feedback could be a bit better, but I think thats more of an M problem than a tire problem. I really hope the new PS4S fall right between the current Super Sports and cup 2's. And waiting for some independents reviews and comparos. Not really one to fall for fancy graphs and numbers from the marketing geniuses at Michellin
Who's laughing now?

No 265/30 at the moment, but considering 5P comes in that size (and other sizes come in /30, I suspect that it will come out.
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Who's laughing now?

No 265/30 at the moment, but considering 5P comes in that size (and other sizes come in /30, I suspect that it will come out.
Me, I've seen that list already... your just clarifying 2 points that I already made in my previous post. That they don't come in ZCP size yet, well the Rear yeah but not the Front (30 profile ) . And that Tirerack does not have all the sizes listed. fyi, I was agreeing with you and laughing at his unicorn grip comment I mean are you running the Sportcontact 6's right now, so you have a need to defend them or what is it... I will reserve judgement until both are officially released with independent reviews, and some forum member insight. I'm at about 6k miles on my current PSS, so timing wise should be perfect, for a new set of rubber in about 4 or 5 months.
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      01-20-2017, 07:09 PM   #127
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I mean are you running the Sportcontact 6's right now, so you have a need to defend them or what is it... I will reserve judgement until both are officially released with independent reviews, and some forum member insight.
You mean like all the posts defending the MPS4S which no one is running while bashing the SC6 which are out and on BMWs after having won all the 2016 Independent TestS in Europe over the MPSS, even with many posts preferring the RE-11 over the MPSS by many f8x owners on the forum?
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      01-21-2017, 04:35 PM   #128
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Just noticed the 4s are on tire rack now with a March 1 availability. http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....ndard%20Brakes
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Just noticed the 4s are on tire rack now with a March 1 availability. http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....ndard%20Brakes
Nice find
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I'd love to see a comparison between the Michelin PS4S and the Michelin PS A/S 3+.

Does anyone know of one?
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      01-22-2017, 04:05 PM   #131
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Sizes are up on MichelinMan website now. My tire guy is in Cali testing these right now and he said they are a nice step up from MPSS. Luckily I need new tires so ill be going for a set in March when they land.
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I'd love to see a comparison between the Michelin PS4S and the Michelin PS A/S 3+.

Does anyone know of one?
Michelin has only test data thus far and will not release comparison to only other Michelin product.

Upcoming Independent reviews will not test a Summer tire against an All Season tire either.

You have to decide what type Tire category you want to look at.
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