20" Vossen VFS1 vs. 19" Vorsteiner VFF103

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Vossen VFS1



Vorsteiner VFF103


What do you guys think? Which one would you consider for the E89 when you are on the following setup:

-BMW Performance BBK
-KW V3 Coilovers

Also what if ride quality is not an issue and just concerned about rubbing?

[Zteve]

My vote would be for the VFF103's. I was considering those or a similar "split 5 spoke" style. Ended up deciding to get the VMR V803's.

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Originally Posted by Zteve

My vote would be for the VFF103's. I was considering those or a similar "split 5 spoke" style. Ended up deciding to get the VMR V803's.

Did you get 19s or 20s? That's my problem. The Vorsteiner available here comes only in 19s.

[VailM3]

wrong section mate there is a for sale page. Mods please move this thread.

[CarAbuser]

I would personally avoid anything from VMR. They seem to be very poorly made.

I've had to get buckles in them sorted twice and the finish is starting to go on a couple. Only had them for 6 months!

[Zteve]

Originally Posted by Fly2

Did you get 19s or 20s? That's my problem. The Vorsteiner available here comes only in 19s.

I went for the 19's. I haven't seen enough negative reviews of the rims to push me away from the great price and relatively light weight of the V803's.

[ttuner]

Originally Posted by VailM3

wrong section mate there is a for sale page. Mods please move this thread.

lol he's not even selling anything. he's asking for opinions.

VMR's are nice wheels, but they are cheap. Vossen or Vorstieniner are a higher end product, so it really depends on your budget. I like those Vossens personally.

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Originally Posted by ttuner

lol he's not even selling anything. he's asking for opinions.

VMR's are nice wheels, but they are cheap. Vossen or Vorstieniner are a higher end product, so it really depends on your budget. I like those Vossens personally.

My only issues with it would be the rubbing. My local dealer of Vossen recommended 20x9 front and 20x10 for rear. The rear might need to get fender rolling, which I don't want. If I go for 19s, there's bigger chance of rubbing the front bumper lip side. Budget is not an issue, I saved enough for a $2.5k wheels and $2.5k for coilovers. I'm just concerned about rubbing the rear fenders if I get the 20s. Cos that's what we had to do with my former car, 370z.

[ttuner]

Originally Posted by Fly2

My only issues with it would be the rubbing. My local dealer of Vossen recommended 20x9 front and 20x10 for rear. The rear might need to get fender rolling, which I don't want. If I go for 19s, there's bigger chance of rubbing the front bumper lip side. Budget is not an issue, I saved enough for a $2.5k wheels and $2.5k for coilovers. I'm just concerned about rubbing the rear fenders if I get the 20s. Cos that's what we had to do with my former car, 370z.

Just compare the stock offsets/wheel width with the new set you are looking at.
Others have ran 20x10 in the rear i think and have been fine. Do some searching around. It really depends on the offset + width of the wheel thats going to determine if you'll rub.

http://www.1010tires.com/Tools/Wheel-Offset-Calculator#

[ttuner]

I run a 19x8.5 front, 19x9.5 rear at a +35 offset for reference:

[Asbjorn]

I agree with Zteve, but I think these wheels speak a different design language compared to the Z4. I would go for something more concave and less "raw". Such as 6 series or alpina style wheels. The VFF wheels you showed would fit the design of the 1M better imo.

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Originally Posted by ttuner

I run a 19x8.5 front, 19x9.5 rear at a +35 offset for reference:

Wow, so the 19s don't really look that small for the Z4. I haven't seen one E89 here in my country with custom wheels. You will only see an E89 here if you go to the dealer. So I guess I'll be the first one.

Do you have to do the "7" thing when driving into humps? Or to an uphill garage/parking so your front bumper's chin/lip won't rub against the surface? That was the concern for 19s to me. I used to have a regular sedan, lowered it with 17s, the bottom of front bumper rubs a lot, with 18s, I don't even have to try.

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Originally Posted by Asbjorn

I agree with Zteve, but I think these wheels speak a different design language compared to the Z4. I would go for something more concave and less "raw". Such as 6 series or alpina style wheels. The VFF wheels you showed would fit the design of the 1M better imo.

Yeah. I think I'm going for the Vossen. I won't be getting what the local dealer offers, it's in Matte Graphite finish and the price is almost double. Whereas I can simply have my cousin to buy it there for me and ship it directly to me.

This is the last mod for the car I'm holding on off, once I've finally decided the size of the wheels, I will order everything I need so all the items arrive here together.

[Innovative AutoConcepts]

My vote would be for the VFF103's but the VMRWheels V803's though. I like the 5 spoke split style. and VMR is much cheaper.

[ttuner]

Originally Posted by Fly2

Wow, so the 19s don't really look that small for the Z4. I haven't seen one E89 here in my country with custom wheels. You will only see an E89 here if you go to the dealer. So I guess I'll be the first one.

Do you have to do the "7" thing when driving into humps? Or to an uphill garage/parking so your front bumper's chin/lip won't rub against the surface? That was the concern for 19s to me. I used to have a regular sedan, lowered it with 17s, the bottom of front bumper rubs a lot, with 18s, I don't even have to try.

I have a 3D Design front lip and it will scrape on really steep inclines/declines, but its really rare. I have a 1/4in drop with eibach springs too though.

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Originally Posted by Innovative AutoConcepts

My vote would be for the VFF103's but the VMRWheels V803's though. I like the 5 spoke split style. and VMR is much cheaper.

20s? No rubbing issues from rear? I'm not trying to save for the wheels, I want what I like for the car. I don't have the latest smartphone, but I'm willing to bleed my wallet for the wheels.

My friend's E85 has that similar design. I want to be different, not a lot of Vossen owners here. Most of them are on Lexus' and BMW sedans.

[CedarZ4]

The Vorsteiner for reference, our forum's own.

http://e89.zpost.com/forums/showpost...96&postcount=9

I think they work very well. Finally, 20s that do not look like clown shoes on the Z.

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Originally Posted by CedarZ4

The Vorsteiner for reference, our forum's own.

http://e89.zpost.com/forums/showpost...96&postcount=9

I think they work very well. Finally, 20s that do not look like clown shoes on the Z.

Thanks for the link!

[jts1981]

Originally Posted by Fly2

My only issues with it would be the rubbing. My local dealer of Vossen recommended 20x9 front and 20x10 for rear. The rear might need to get fender rolling, which I don't want. If I go for 19s, there's bigger chance of rubbing the front bumper lip side. Budget is not an issue, I saved enough for a $2.5k wheels and $2.5k for coilovers. I'm just concerned about rubbing the rear fenders if I get the 20s. Cos that's what we had to do with my former car, 370z.

Try getyourwheels.com. They are very knowledgeable and have a ton of options.

I had my forgestars made to order from them. Great service

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Originally Posted by jts1981

Try getyourwheels.com. They are very knowledgeable and have a ton of options.

I had my forgestars made to order from them. Great service

I tried it out like last week, but seems that most wheel sites only offer standard wheels for the E89. Like most of the wheels you can only get a match of both sizes, like 19x9 front and rear. No staggered setup. I am now talking to N4SM, I think I'm gonna get a good deal. Hoping to place the order around July-August.

BTW, I'm getting the Vossen VFS1. I've been a Vossen guy since 2011. First for the 370Z and to a Honda Accord. Wanted to try Vorsteiner but their local dealer here only offers 19s for the E89. I guess I'm still gonna be a Vossen dude for the next 5 years. Lol