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      05-08-2017, 10:49 PM   #1
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i have no idea how downshift drive stick/ paddle shifters

ok, i've never driven a stick.

from what i see in my RPM on automatic, gears change at 2kRPM in comfort mode and 2.5k-3kRPM in sport mode. so that's what i do on the paddle shifters.

but i don't know how to properly downshift too early without making the engine jolt or spike the RPM.

i somehow always end up at 5th gear going 35-40mph

when do i downshift?

where should the RPM needle stay on everyday driving?
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I really wish I could tell you, but this really is something you'll have to figure out on your own by playing with it because you've never driven a stick before. Even driving a stick, the procedure is to just go with what you feel based on the feedback from the car (acceleration in a particular gear in accordance with how much you want, mostly). I've never really looked at it from this perspective before, so you really woke me up here. I'll tell you what my dad told me when I learned to drive a stick. At the very beginning, he just instructed me to upshift at 3K until and always turn in 2nd gear until I "figured it out" ...maybe his advice can help you.
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Can you clarify if you're on the 6 speed manual, the 7 speed DCT, or the 8 speed ZF box? You're using a lot of terms interchangeably..............
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It looks like you're driving an automatic, if I'm reading you right. First off, you don't have to downshift. The automatic tranny will do that for you when you're coming to a stop. Manual downshifting (with the stick or paddles) is done to allow for increased acceleration. Your engine puts out more hp as the rpms increase (up to around 6000 I think). There's no set rule on when to do it; do it if the need arises, like if you want to pass. There's plenty out there on this so go and learn.
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Can you clarify if you're on the 6 speed manual, the 7 speed DCT, or the 8 speed ZF box? You're using a lot of terms interchangeably..............
7 speed DCT
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Pretty much what jparnes1 said. As an example, if you're cruising down the highway in 7th gear ~1.8k-2k rpm and you want to pass somebody, you can downshift to 5th gear which will bring your rpm to ~3k and you'll accelerate much quicker than if you were to simply mash the pedal in 7th gear. Another scenario with "spirited driving" is if you're braking going into a turn, you downshift to maintain your revs in the higher rpm range which will allow you to quickly accelerate out of the turn.
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I really wish I could tell you, but this really is something you'll have to figure out on your own by playing with it because you've never driven a stick before. Even driving a stick, the procedure is to just go with what you feel based on the feedback from the car (acceleration in a particular gear in accordance with how much you want, mostly). I've never really looked at it from this perspective before, so you really woke me up here. I'll tell you what my dad told me when I learned to drive a stick. At the very beginning, he just instructed me to upshift at 3K until and always turn in 2nd gear until I "figured it out" ...maybe his advice can help you.
Hmm... I had no idea changing gears was more personal than technical. Thanks for you input.
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It looks like you're driving an automatic, if I'm reading you right. First off, you don't have to downshift. The automatic tranny will do that for you when you're coming to a stop. Manual downshifting (with the stick or paddles) is done to allow for increased acceleration. Your engine puts out more hp as the rpms increase (up to around 6000 I think). There's no set rule on when to do it; do it if the need arises, like if you want to pass. There's plenty out there on this so go and learn.
"Manual downshifting (with the stick or paddles) is done to allow for increased acceleration."

This is excellent wake up call. I'll ingrain this into my brain for the rest of my life.
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Since your question pertains more to how to shift gears in manual, which is not pertinent to your E89 exclusively, I suggest you Google "when to upshift and downshift in manual" to access a more fundamental tutorial on that topic. Whatever you learn will be applicable to your vehicle for the most part.
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Since your question pertains more to how to shift gears in manual, which is not pertinent to your E89 exclusively, I suggest you Google "when to upshift and downshift in manual" to access a more fundamental tutorial on that topic. Whatever you learn will be applicable to your vehicle for the most part.
i thought i posted in the general auto talk but oh well. it would have illicited more responses.
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Just enjoy

The DCT transmission is smarter than we are. Drive the car, use the power. Watch what the DCT is doing,as shown on the center display. Use various amounts of power in sport settings and watch what it is doing for you. The turbo engines do not require a lot of shifting. In normal mode it will always stay in as high a gear as it can to save fuel. In sport it will stay in lower gears longer to improve acceleration. Let the dct do all the thinking for a while, but try to monitor what it is doing.
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Hmm... I had no idea changing gears was more personal than technical. Thanks for you input.
Well, it is technical, but everyday driving in manual mode sort of isn't.
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