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      04-10-2018, 09:16 PM   #1
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6th Gen Camaro ZL1 1LE

So i was at a body shop getting a dent removed from my 4runner, and a 2018 zl1 1le that just rolled off the hauler was sitting in the parking lot. Pardon my French but Holy Fuck did this car have a presence! The wing and dive planes may have been a tad much, but only a tad, but the stance and everything about it literally made me weak in the knees.

Now that the M5 is (mostly) paid off, and has been relegated to nice weekend only duty, I'm getting an itch to have a stupid fast 3 pedal pony car.

Please talk me out of it

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      04-10-2018, 09:37 PM   #2
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Why would we?

Quite possibly the best performance car under $100,000.
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      04-10-2018, 09:38 PM   #3
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Will the ZL1 1LE be a daily or another weekend toy?

If daily, get another wheel setup because the OEM tires will wear out quickly and throw rocks all over the paint. And be sure to test drive one cause the DSSV dampers will give it a FIRM ride.
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      04-10-2018, 10:18 PM   #4
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I've got a 4runner for daily activities, + I work from home so I don't put many miles on my cars. I am infatuated. Shit it's bad .

I have purchased 2 new cars in my life, an '06 MazdaSpeed6 and an '11 STI and I said I would never buy new again..this has me rethinking that Just trade in the M5 negotiate the best deal I can, and drive out with a beast.
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      04-10-2018, 11:22 PM   #5
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So i was at a body shop getting a dent removed from my 4runner, and a 2018 zl1 1le that just rolled off the hauler was sitting in the parking lot. Pardon my French but Holy Fuck did this car have a presence! The wing and dive planes may have been a tad much, but only a tad, but the stance and everything about it literally made me weak in the knees.

Now that the M5 is (mostly) paid off, and has been relegated to nice weekend only duty, I'm getting an itch to have a stupid fast 3 pedal pony car.

Please talk me out of it
No



Also, the camaro just got a facelift and it looks garbage in my opinion. Will have to wait and see how it’ll look in Zl1/1le trim. So I’m not sure you’ll have to worry about the refresh making your car look obsolete anytime soon.


Should’ve just gone full bumble bee.
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      04-10-2018, 11:25 PM   #6
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Will the ZL1 1LE be a daily or another weekend toy?

If daily, get another wheel setup because the OEM tires will wear out quickly and throw rocks all over the paint. And be sure to test drive one cause the DSSV dampers will give it a FIRM ride.
Has solid mounts too. There are people rationalizing their purchase IMO, but I think most people would be far better off with the "regular" ZL1 or 2SS 1LE (the one I got). There is a good in-depth video floating around on you-tube that dissects all of the features and adjustments that the ZL1-1LE has. The video is a bit biased (mustang guy I think), but it does a good job of breaking it all down. My take-away from that video was "this is one hell of a track car". It's a lot more livable than the Z/28, it doesn't go to the extreme ends and still performs better, but the ZL1-1LE is a suspension tune that forgoes the adjustable mag ride and makes sacrifices in the name of going faster around a track, one of those sacrifices is more drag, but make no mistake, the regular ZL1 handles amazing and is no slouch. I basically have the same suspension setup in the 2SS 1LE and I can say it's as stiff as I'd want to go with a street/DD car. It's complaint and sucks up stuff good, but these anti-sway bars are aggressive and the chassis is very very stiff (so stiff if you jack it up using either the forward or rear jack point, the entire side of the car comes off the ground and you can put in both jack-stands at once for the entire side). We have some fun roads in the spring/summer/fall, but the main reason I didn't go with the ZL1 was it's just too hard to use 650hp here. If I was down in AZ or some other place I've lived, I probably would have gone with the ZL1. The 2SS 1LE is ZL1 suspension and nicer interior/many ZL1 features, but I am sure I wouldn't go for the ZL1-1LE unless I was going to track regularly. There's no way I could live with that day to day, and I upgraded and stiffened the suspension on my 4-series with shockware, lowering springs and more aggressive swaybars. Just like you get people claiming they run racing slicks in the winter on frozen lakes with rear-wheel-drive cars, there are no doubt going to be droves of people that tell you they DD the ZL1-1LE on pot-holed rutted roads every day, but with what I've experienced, I wouldn't do it, I'd go ZL1 and I'm sure I'd be happy.
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Also, the camaro just got a facelift and it looks garbage in my opinion.
I agree. The ZL-1 is not being face-lifted for 2019 though, so that shouldn't be a concern.
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I agree. The ZL-1 is not being face-lifted for 2019 though, so that shouldn't be a concern.
Ah, I see. All the more reason to get the car then.
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If it's a street car, get the regular ZL1. 1LE is going to be a harsh ride for street use.
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      04-11-2018, 08:23 AM   #11
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I'll just leave this pic of my ZL1 here.
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Everyone quit being pansies. He said he has a 4runner for daily activities and works from home.

OP get the damn ZL1 1LE...it is a BEAST.
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I'd wait to see the new z28.
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I'm getting an itch to have a stupid fast 3 pedal pony car.
Sorry if it's got three pedals, I can't talk you out of it
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I'd wait to see the new z28.
Have you heard any rumors about it?

NM. did my own googlin'

http://gmauthority.com/blog/2017/03/...not-to-expect/

Z/28 would not be for me I don't think. Nor is the 1LE.

So, after a bunch of research, I am leaning heavily towards a low mileage ZL1 17 or maybe a new 18 if the price is right. But a manual in gray blue or silver seems hard to locate in Atl area. I'd love to drive one that is broke in so I can really get on it and see how she feels.

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I traded my Z/28 on this one. It’s on fire.
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My wife and I daily drive too. Alternating between the M5.
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Too bad you can't see out of it.
You can see forward just fine. And you can put anything in front of you behind you. So what's the problem?
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You can see forward just fine. And you can put anything in front of you behind you. So what's the problem?
And I’ve found, as with many big coupes, that B-pillar is so far back that merging left or left lane changes are FAR easier than ANY sedan I’ve owned. The B-Pillar on most cars is right in your face when you look over your left shoulder.
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It is a ridiculous toy looking childish brazen play thing......



.... so you should buy it because its awesome.
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