Trunk/Boot Opening

dryadsdad · 09-23-2023, 08:11 AM

Hello Experts,

I'm new to the E89 (2011). I've had it comprehensively examined both by Principle BMW of San Antonio and a local indie. Both report no codes and no issues with the car. So maybe this is an operational error on my part - or I sure hope so.

The trunk/boot will not open with an emblem push. It will open every time without exception using the cabin release.

I'd appreciate any suggestions for getting the emblem release working. TIA

Edit: I edited the copy above to reflect that it WAS my error with the fob. I wasn't holding the button down long enough. Now my only issue is with the fob.

Djflacoent · 10-09-2023, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by dryadsdad

Hello Experts,

I'm new to the E89 (2011). I've had it comprehensively examined both by Principle BMW of San Antonio and a local indie. Both report no codes and no issues with the car. So maybe this is an operational error on my part - or I sure hope so.

The trunk/boot will not open with an emblem push. It will open every time without exception using the cabin release.

I'd appreciate any suggestions for getting the emblem release working. TIA

Edit: I edited the copy above to reflect that it WAS my error with the fob. I wasn't holding the button down long enough. Now my only issue is with the fob.

I had the same issue. First thing I did was check all the fuses and then I ran a computer scan and resented my codes. After that, it started working.

dryadsdad · 10-09-2023, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Djflacoent

I had the same issue. First thing I did was check all the fuses and then I ran a computer scan and resented my codes. After that, it started working.

Thanks. What scanner do you use? I'd like one that also can pick up the retractable roof's codes.

B21 · 10-10-2023, 03:36 AM

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Thanks. What scanner do you use? I'd like one that also can pick up the retractable roof's codes.

Bimmergeeks Protool is probably the most comprehensive diagnostic/ coding app for BMW..Android only…

I’ve tried and use several ISTA, Foxwell 520, Carly, BimmerCode..but all round Protool is second only to ISTA BMWs own PC based tool set..

dryadsdad · 10-10-2023, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by B21

Bimmergeeks Protool is probably the most comprehensive diagnostic/ coding app for BMW..Android only…

I’ve tried and use several ISTA, Foxwell 520, Carly, BimmerCode..but all round Protool is second only to ISTA BMWs own PC based tool set..

I'm iOS. Of those you cited, do you have a recommendation for Apple phones?

B21 · 10-10-2023, 07:13 AM

Sadly no..I bough a dedicated cheap reuggedised Chinese android for £70 and keep it in the car all the time..

dryadsdad · 10-10-2023, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by B21

Sadly no..I bough a dedicated cheap reuggedised Chinese android for £70 and keep it in the car all the time..

Owell. I'll cast about and take a chance on one or the other. Thx.

dryadsdad · 10-10-2023, 02:02 PM

OK, I ordered a reader from Amazon partly due to a Prime Deal day so I got it at what I hope is a decent price for a scanner. It specifically lists the E89 as a car it can do a complete scan on including the ECU or ECM whatever it's called in BMW-speak.

Looks like I'm set up now to get into all sorts of mischief.

B21 · 10-10-2023, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by dryadsdad

OK, I ordered a reader from Amazon partly due to a Prime Deal day so I got it at what I hope is a decent price for a scanner. It specifically lists the E89 as a car it can do a complete scan on including the ECU or ECM whatever it's called in BMW-speak.

Looks like I'm set up now to get into all sorts of mischief.

Will be interesting to see how it goes…pls report back 👌

dryadsdad · 10-10-2023, 05:33 PM

I will although since I'm a novice with both BMWs and OBD scanners, I'm unsure the value of what I report is. Meanwhile, the scanner I have coming is:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BG6SRKWK

As of now, I have to wonder if BMW could have found a less accessible place for the OBD port. I doubt it.

Djflacoent · 10-11-2023, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by dryadsdad

Thanks. What scanner do you use? I'd like one that also can pick up the retractable roof's codes.

https://www.amazon.com/ANCEL-Vehicle...2-63e904010ad0

I get all the roof codes also.

dryadsdad · 10-11-2023, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Djflacoent

https://www.amazon.com/ANCEL-Vehicle...2-63e904010ad0

I get all the roof codes also.

I openly admit I had no idea what I was doing when I purchased this unit. I mean, in the sense of being able to compare it to others such as yours which I also saw.

I based my choice on the manufacturer's claims as well as a review from a BMW tech who said in that review that the scanner's reports/abilities equaled the BMW official scanner.

It should arrive today but it'll be at least the weekend before I can give it a try.

dryadsdad · 10-21-2023, 06:29 AM

Follow up on the scanner I purchased and identified above.

The scanner itself seemed to me, a novice, like a serious piece of equipment. The instructions didn’t help me at all. Instead they were what I have come to think of as typical Chinese Equipment Instructions meaning they go into detail about obscure or obvious things but ignore conveying any useful information.

I booted it up spending an hour or so updating all the modules. AFAIK, it is only useful for BMW, Rolls and Mini. That’s a bit of a letdown since we own two other brands of cars but OK, I only got it for the Z4.

Mucking through the menus I noted a way to scan all the modules so did so. It returned a ‘no codes’ result. I hit ‘clear all codes’ anyway which only took a few seconds. The result was no result. The trunk/boot logo push still didn’t open the trunk/boot.

Throughout the operation, I hadn’t a clue what I was doing. For example, the instructions went on and on about ‘binding the VCI’ so I looked up VCI and still had no idea if I should bind or unbind it. I left it alone.

After the scan, I realized I have a device here that likely can brick my perfectly running car and so I have absolutely no business wielding it for fear of doing just that. My final decision came when I asked myself how would I use this whizzbang to install a new battery? I had no clue.

So despite me believing it worked fine, I returned it to Amazon. Last night I got an inspiration so bought a Haynes manual on all things OBD II. I’ll read that and maybe decide to again buy a scanner but this time with some foreknowledge.

javis20 · 11-02-2023, 10:52 AM

Btw, it's an emblem pull. not a push to open trunk. Just to clarify.

dryadsdad · 11-02-2023, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by javis20

Btw, it's an emblem pull. not a push to open trunk. Just to clarify.

Please clarify further.

I don't see how I can pull anything. If I push on the top of the emblem, it rotates inward on the X-axis. At what point do I pull anything?

Drummer$Dude · 11-03-2023, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by dryadsdad

Please clarify further.

I don't see how I can pull anything. If I push on the top of the emblem, it rotates inward on the X-axis. At what point do I pull anything?

Yeah, I push the top of the emblem to unlatch then use my fingers at the bottom of the trunk to open it. I don't lift up on the emblem itself because I don't want to cause excess stress on it.

dryadsdad · 11-03-2023, 02:28 PM

Hmm. I used the term 'open' when I should have said 'unlatch'.

Push on the emblem and the trunk/boot doesn't make the electric motor/unlatch noise with my E89. That's what I'm trying to address. It works perfectly using the cabin switch or the key switch.

Drummer$Dude · 11-03-2023, 03:26 PM

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Hmm. I used the term 'open' when I should have said 'unlatch'.

Push on the emblem and the trunk/boot doesn't make the electric motor/unlatch noise with my E89. That's what I'm trying to address. It works perfectly using the cabin switch or the key switch.

I think the emblem button is bad. It contains a switch that's activated when pressing the emblem. I don't imagine it's hard to replace.

BMW Part # 51247214036

https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/sho...diagId=41_1895

https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/bmw...on-51247214036

dryadsdad · 11-03-2023, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Drummer$Dude

I think the emblem button is bad. It contains a switch that's activated when pressing the emblem. I don't imagine it's hard to replace.

BMW Part # 51247214036

https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/sho...diagId=41_1895

https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/bmw...on-51247214036

Makes sense. The key fob and cabin switch all open the trunk well. I'll follow through with these parts. I haven't a clue how to R&R the trunk switch now but I'll look into it.

Thanks so much for doing the parts research for me.

Drummer$Dude · 11-04-2023, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by dryadsdad

Makes sense. The key fob and cabin switch all open the trunk well. I'll follow through with these parts. I haven't a clue how to R&R the trunk switch now but I'll look into it.

Thanks so much for doing the parts research for me.

Just a thought, but you could remove the old unit and test the switch with a multimeter just to confirm it’s bad.

dryadsdad · 11-05-2023, 06:46 AM

Testing it will be easy. Figuring out how to remove it or get at it will (for me) be the challenge. Due to my workload and the lack of urgency in this repair, I'll plan on doing just that but I'm unsure when I can get at it.

RobbiZ4 · 11-07-2023, 01:45 PM

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Figuring out how to remove it or get at it ...

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09-23-2023, 08:11 AM	#1
dryadsdad New Member 3 Rep 25 Posts Drives: BMW E89, Toyota Tacoma TRD Join Date: Aug 2023 Location: South Texas iTrader: (0)	Trunk/Boot Opening Hello Experts, I'm new to the E89 (2011). I've had it comprehensively examined both by Principle BMW of San Antonio and a local indie. Both report no codes and no issues with the car. So maybe this is an operational error on my part - or I sure hope so. The trunk/boot will not open with an emblem push. It will open every time without exception using the cabin release. I'd appreciate any suggestions for getting the emblem release working. TIA Edit: I edited the copy above to reflect that it WAS my error with the fob. I wasn't holding the button down long enough. Now my only issue is with the fob. Last edited by dryadsdad; 09-23-2023 at 11:44 AM..
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dryadsdad New Member 3 Rep 25 Posts Drives: BMW E89, Toyota Tacoma TRD Join Date: Aug 2023 Location: South Texas iTrader: (0)	OK, I ordered a reader from Amazon partly due to a Prime Deal day so I got it at what I hope is a decent price for a scanner. It specifically lists the E89 as a car it can do a complete scan on including the ECU or ECM whatever it's called in BMW-speak. Looks like I'm set up now to get into all sorts of mischief.
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dryadsdad New Member 3 Rep 25 Posts Drives: BMW E89, Toyota Tacoma TRD Join Date: Aug 2023 Location: South Texas iTrader: (0)	I will although since I'm a novice with both BMWs and OBD scanners, I'm unsure the value of what I report is. Meanwhile, the scanner I have coming is: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BG6SRKWK As of now, I have to wonder if BMW could have found a less accessible place for the OBD port. I doubt it.
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10-21-2023, 06:29 AM	#13
dryadsdad New Member 3 Rep 25 Posts Drives: BMW E89, Toyota Tacoma TRD Join Date: Aug 2023 Location: South Texas iTrader: (0)	Follow up on the scanner I purchased and identified above. The scanner itself seemed to me, a novice, like a serious piece of equipment. The instructions didn’t help me at all. Instead they were what I have come to think of as typical Chinese Equipment Instructions meaning they go into detail about obscure or obvious things but ignore conveying any useful information. I booted it up spending an hour or so updating all the modules. AFAIK, it is only useful for BMW, Rolls and Mini. That’s a bit of a letdown since we own two other brands of cars but OK, I only got it for the Z4. Mucking through the menus I noted a way to scan all the modules so did so. It returned a ‘no codes’ result. I hit ‘clear all codes’ anyway which only took a few seconds. The result was no result. The trunk/boot logo push still didn’t open the trunk/boot. Throughout the operation, I hadn’t a clue what I was doing. For example, the instructions went on and on about ‘binding the VCI’ so I looked up VCI and still had no idea if I should bind or unbind it. I left it alone. After the scan, I realized I have a device here that likely can brick my perfectly running car and so I have absolutely no business wielding it for fear of doing just that. My final decision came when I asked myself how would I use this whizzbang to install a new battery? I had no clue. So despite me believing it worked fine, I returned it to Amazon. Last night I got an inspiration so bought a Haynes manual on all things OBD II. I’ll read that and maybe decide to again buy a scanner but this time with some foreknowledge.
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javis20 Private 13 Rep 76 Posts Drives: 2011 Z4 3.0i Silver Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Central PA iTrader: (0)	Btw, it's an emblem pull. not a push to open trunk. Just to clarify.
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dryadsdad New Member 3 Rep 25 Posts Drives: BMW E89, Toyota Tacoma TRD Join Date: Aug 2023 Location: South Texas iTrader: (0)	Hmm. I used the term 'open' when I should have said 'unlatch'. Push on the emblem and the trunk/boot doesn't make the electric motor/unlatch noise with my E89. That's what I'm trying to address. It works perfectly using the cabin switch or the key switch.
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11-05-2023, 06:46 AM	#21
dryadsdad New Member 3 Rep 25 Posts Drives: BMW E89, Toyota Tacoma TRD Join Date: Aug 2023 Location: South Texas iTrader: (0)	Testing it will be easy. Figuring out how to remove it or get at it will (for me) be the challenge. Due to my workload and the lack of urgency in this repair, I'll plan on doing just that but I'm unsure when I can get at it.
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