No alarm>>how to get red lights flashing?

RET46 · 02-10-2010, 06:42 AM

Just got my Z4 and as it has no alarm the red lights found under the rearview mirror and on the doors do not flash when I lock the doors with the remote. Is it possible to get these red lights to flash after I lock the doors? My other two vehicles do that and neither have an alarm. I could not find anything in the manual on this. I have read this can be set up on other BMW models.

Thanks in advance,

RET

mrboon · 02-10-2010, 07:25 AM

red lights? never seen them... do you have a picture of them?

BarrowJon · 02-10-2010, 07:27 AM

You can set this confirmation signal by going to settings, then door locks using the idrive control. If you don't have idrive, you may have to have dealer program through your remote.

rmorin49 · 02-10-2010, 07:27 AM

No alarm, no flashy.

BarrowJon · 02-10-2010, 07:47 AM

Thought RET46 was referring to headlight and tailight flashing to confirm locking and unlocking. Regarding the "clown nose" my previous BMW did not have alarm system, but dealer was able to program it to flash when car locked.

rmorin49 · 02-10-2010, 08:13 AM

Almost sure you can progam headlights and tailights to flash when locking thru iDrive. I think the audible sound is only available if you have an alarm installed. With alarm wiring now a factory option I would think having dealer install would be more costly. Used to be able to get a kit for about $150 and another $100 to install. At least this was the case with my 335i.

msimon18 · 02-10-2010, 08:52 AM

The alarm is NO LONGER dealer installable with the new E89 starting with the 2009 model Z4 !!!!! Same for the SmartPhone. Dealer and I leanred the HARD way !!

If you want either you better order them from the factory.

Roadstergal · 02-10-2010, 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RET46

Just got my Z4 and as it has no alarm the red lights found under the rearview mirror and on the doors do not flash when I lock the doors with the remote. Is it possible to get these red lights to flash after I lock the doors? My other two vehicles do that and neither have an alarm. I could not find anything in the manual on this. I have read this can be set up on other BMW models.

Thanks in advance,

RET

I also questioned my salesman about having the clown nose flash when the car was locked. This could be programmed by the dealer regardless if you had the alarm system. I had it done in both of my other Z4's. He never got back to me on this so I will ask someone in the service department whenever I get over to the dealer.

Memphis1 · 02-10-2010, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RET46

Just got my Z4 and as it has no alarm the red lights found under the rearview mirror and on the doors do not flash when I lock the doors with the remote. Is it possible to get these red lights to flash after I lock the doors? My other two vehicles do that and neither have an alarm. I could not find anything in the manual on this. I have read this can be set up on other BMW models.

Thanks in advance,

RET

as far as the headlights and taillights...

the clown nose you have to ask your dealer

mikeinaustin · 02-10-2010, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by msimon18

The alarm is NO LONGER dealer installable with the new E89 starting with the 2009 model Z4 !!!!! Same for the SmartPhone. Dealer and I leanred the HARD way !!

If you want either you better order them from the factory.

can you expand a bit more on your experience? Did bmw actually tell your dealers service people that it could not be done or was your dealer just unable to figure it out?

ChuckB · 02-10-2010, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by msimon18

The alarm is NO LONGER dealer installable with the new E89 starting with the 2009 model Z4 !!!!! Same for the Smart-phone. Dealer and I learned the HARD way !!

If you want either you better order them from the factory.

I think the Dealer is being less than honest or someone is lying to him/her, I had the alarm system installed 4 weeks after I got my Z4 by the Dealer here, have them check part set# 65 73 2 158 691, this is the complete alarm installation set. You also need three small clips, Part # 51 16 1 881 149 @ $.08 each.

Memphis1 · 02-10-2010, 02:02 PM

everything can be upgraded by the dealerships.

BlueZ4AZ · 02-10-2010, 03:38 PM

When you get out of the car and walk away, then lock it with the remote, the headlights, turn signals and side lights all flash.

What benefit is there by also having the little clown nose inside the car (which is difficult to see from the outside) flash at the same time?

....or, am I missing something?

Memphis1 · 02-10-2010, 03:40 PM

it flashes while the car it's locked, not just once when locked and unlocked.

msimon18 · 02-10-2010, 10:36 PM

Folks,

In my case the sales manager did a lot of research and was quite emphatic as was the service manager that the BMW factory alarm system for the new 2009 / 2010 E89 model CANNOT be installed at the dealership and can only be installed at the FACTORY. I will use Chuck B's information to re-challenge the dealer folks and get back to this forum when I get an answer.

BTW the same holds true for the SmnartPhone adapter as they thought it was DELAER installed and apparently it too is not longer able to be installed by the dealer. Since they made a significant mistake here they reimbursed me the cost of the SmartPhone option, the cradle for my iPhone 3Gs AND the cost of the 6fl which was a required option for the Smartphone integration. This cost them $700.00 so I am sure that they checked it out before they agreed to my demand for the reimbursement.

We'll see......

msimon18 · 02-10-2010, 10:41 PM

Memphis 2012,

I don't think so...... I can think of numerous combinations that even if you could afford to do them they would not be able to do a reasonable install for...

RET46 · 02-11-2010, 05:10 AM

is to have the appearance of the car being alarmed. I honestly thought the car had an alarm as standard equipment as it seems appropriate on a +$60000 car. Even the Boxster, the other car I had on my wish list, has it as STD and almost everthing is optional on that car. I figure as the light is built into the car, as I can see the red housing under the mirror, it could be activated through set up procedures.

RET

msimon18 · 02-11-2010, 08:02 AM

I agree, for the price we paid, something as inexpensive as the alarm, should have been a standard item... But, hey that's BMW for ya'.

BlueZ4AZ · 02-11-2010, 09:05 AM

No one really listens to car alarms any more. It has become nothing more than white noise. Had ther car come with an alarm as a standard feature, the MSRP would probably be an additional $200+/-.

Car alarms have become nothing more than..........a way to keep car alarm companies in business.

ipsofacto · 02-11-2010, 09:52 AM

Any tip ... How can one test if the alarm (already installed on my 30i) is functionning (regardless of the fact that nose light is blinking when locked) without any need of smashing the window , or shaking the whole car ???

BarrowJon · 02-11-2010, 10:10 AM

With top down and car locked up, see if you can trip the motion sensor below seat cushion

T89 · 02-11-2010, 11:17 AM

For those of that don't have the factory alarm, is your clown nose red?
I don't have the alarm system. Don't have a red clown nose either. Mines more like a slightly tinted transparent clown nose.

T

02-10-2010, 06:42 AM	#1
RET46 New Member 3 Rep 17 Posts Drives: 2010 Z4 3.0 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Ontario iTrader: (0)	No alarm>>how to get red lights flashing? Just got my Z4 and as it has no alarm the red lights found under the rearview mirror and on the doors do not flash when I lock the doors with the remote. Is it possible to get these red lights to flash after I lock the doors? My other two vehicles do that and neither have an alarm. I could not find anything in the manual on this. I have read this can be set up on other BMW models. Thanks in advance, RET
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02-10-2010, 07:25 AM	#2
mrboon Lieutenant 76 Rep 561 Posts Drives: Speeeed Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: *** iTrader: (0)	red lights? never seen them... do you have a picture of them?
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BarrowJon Private First Class 69 Rep 157 Posts Drives: Z4 M40i Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Seneca, SC iTrader: (0)	You can set this confirmation signal by going to settings, then door locks using the idrive control. If you don't have idrive, you may have to have dealer program through your remote.
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02-10-2010, 07:27 AM	#4
rmorin49 Major 53 Rep 1,162 Posts Drives: 11 335d/10 Z4 s30i Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Hagerstown, MD iTrader: (1)	No alarm, no flashy. __________________ Colonel (Retired), US Army/Hagerstown, MD 2016 518ixdrive/MSport AW/Ivory White ED-01-10 2010 Z4s30i AW/Beige/Burl/ 6MT/SP/PP/CWP/NAV/ipod/USB/CA (retired) 2011 335d BS/Oyster/PP/CWP/NAV/ipod/USB(Daily Driver) 30+ mpg(retired)
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02-10-2010, 07:47 AM	#5
BarrowJon Private First Class 69 Rep 157 Posts Drives: Z4 M40i Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Seneca, SC iTrader: (0)	Thought RET46 was referring to headlight and tailight flashing to confirm locking and unlocking. Regarding the "clown nose" my previous BMW did not have alarm system, but dealer was able to program it to flash when car locked.
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02-10-2010, 08:13 AM	#6
rmorin49 Major 53 Rep 1,162 Posts Drives: 11 335d/10 Z4 s30i Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Hagerstown, MD iTrader: (1)	Almost sure you can progam headlights and tailights to flash when locking thru iDrive. I think the audible sound is only available if you have an alarm installed. With alarm wiring now a factory option I would think having dealer install would be more costly. Used to be able to get a kit for about $150 and another $100 to install. At least this was the case with my 335i. __________________ Colonel (Retired), US Army/Hagerstown, MD 2016 518ixdrive/MSport AW/Ivory White ED-01-10 2010 Z4s30i AW/Beige/Burl/ 6MT/SP/PP/CWP/NAV/ipod/USB/CA (retired) 2011 335d BS/Oyster/PP/CWP/NAV/ipod/USB(Daily Driver) 30+ mpg(retired)
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msimon18 Retired 19 Rep 868 Posts Drives: Z4 s30i Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: The Villages, FL iTrader: (0) Garage List 1965 Isetta 300 [0.00] 2004 1/5 Scale M3 GTR [10.00]	The alarm is NO LONGER dealer installable with the new E89 starting with the 2009 model Z4 !!!!! Same for the SmartPhone. Dealer and I leanred the HARD way !! If you want either you better order them from the factory. __________________ M3 GTR - 1/5 scale - 4.2 HP w/ Collari hydraulic brakes - would you believe ~80 MPH on straightaway !!
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BlueZ4AZ Go SU 33 Rep 902 Posts Drives: 2009 Z4 sDrive35i Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Chandler, AZ iTrader: (0)	When you get out of the car and walk away, then lock it with the remote, the headlights, turn signals and side lights all flash. What benefit is there by also having the little clown nose inside the car (which is difficult to see from the outside) flash at the same time? ....or, am I missing something?
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Memphis1 Lieutenant Colonel 91 Rep 1,838 Posts Drives: Z4 SDrive 35i Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: CT iTrader: (0)	it flashes while the car it's locked, not just once when locked and unlocked. __________________
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msimon18 Retired 19 Rep 868 Posts Drives: Z4 s30i Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: The Villages, FL iTrader: (0) Garage List 1965 Isetta 300 [0.00] 2004 1/5 Scale M3 GTR [10.00]	Folks, In my case the sales manager did a lot of research and was quite emphatic as was the service manager that the BMW factory alarm system for the new 2009 / 2010 E89 model CANNOT be installed at the dealership and can only be installed at the FACTORY. I will use Chuck B's information to re-challenge the dealer folks and get back to this forum when I get an answer. BTW the same holds true for the SmnartPhone adapter as they thought it was DELAER installed and apparently it too is not longer able to be installed by the dealer. Since they made a significant mistake here they reimbursed me the cost of the SmartPhone option, the cradle for my iPhone 3Gs AND the cost of the 6fl which was a required option for the Smartphone integration. This cost them $700.00 so I am sure that they checked it out before they agreed to my demand for the reimbursement. We'll see...... __________________ M3 GTR - 1/5 scale - 4.2 HP w/ Collari hydraulic brakes - would you believe ~80 MPH on straightaway !!
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msimon18 Retired 19 Rep 868 Posts Drives: Z4 s30i Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: The Villages, FL iTrader: (0) Garage List 1965 Isetta 300 [0.00] 2004 1/5 Scale M3 GTR [10.00]	Memphis 2012, I don't think so...... I can think of numerous combinations that even if you could afford to do them they would not be able to do a reasonable install for... __________________ M3 GTR - 1/5 scale - 4.2 HP w/ Collari hydraulic brakes - would you believe ~80 MPH on straightaway !!
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02-11-2010, 05:10 AM	#17
RET46 New Member 3 Rep 17 Posts Drives: 2010 Z4 3.0 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Ontario iTrader: (0)	Why I want the flashing red lights... is to have the appearance of the car being alarmed. I honestly thought the car had an alarm as standard equipment as it seems appropriate on a +$60000 car. Even the Boxster, the other car I had on my wish list, has it as STD and almost everthing is optional on that car. I figure as the light is built into the car, as I can see the red housing under the mirror, it could be activated through set up procedures. RET
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msimon18 Retired 19 Rep 868 Posts Drives: Z4 s30i Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: The Villages, FL iTrader: (0) Garage List 1965 Isetta 300 [0.00] 2004 1/5 Scale M3 GTR [10.00]	I agree, for the price we paid, something as inexpensive as the alarm, should have been a standard item... But, hey that's BMW for ya'. __________________ M3 GTR - 1/5 scale - 4.2 HP w/ Collari hydraulic brakes - would you believe ~80 MPH on straightaway !!
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BlueZ4AZ Go SU 33 Rep 902 Posts Drives: 2009 Z4 sDrive35i Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Chandler, AZ iTrader: (0)	No one really listens to car alarms any more. It has become nothing more than white noise. Had ther car come with an alarm as a standard feature, the MSRP would probably be an additional $200+/-. Car alarms have become nothing more than..........a way to keep car alarm companies in business. Last edited by BlueZ4AZ; 02-11-2010 at 09:15 AM..
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ipsofacto Explorer 2 Rep 37 Posts Drives: Z4 30sDrive Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Switzreland iTrader: (0)	Any tip ... How can one test if the alarm (already installed on my 30i) is functionning (regardless of the fact that nose light is blinking when locked) without any need of smashing the window , or shaking the whole car ???
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BarrowJon Private First Class 69 Rep 157 Posts Drives: Z4 M40i Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Seneca, SC iTrader: (0)	With top down and car locked up, see if you can trip the motion sensor below seat cushion
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02-11-2010, 11:17 AM	#22
T89 Lieutenant Colonel 41 Rep 1,531 Posts Drives: Z4 35i & Mini Cooper S Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Geneva & Joburg iTrader: (0)	For those of that don't have the factory alarm, is your clown nose red? I don't have the alarm system. Don't have a red clown nose either. Mines more like a slightly tinted transparent clown nose. T
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