Z4 35i or 435i?

[tranquility]

Originally Posted by CeEl

Rumor has it, BMW will have the 4 in a convertible M version in about 1year... Not sure if hardtop or not.

It better be a hardtop, the 3 series already is...would be stupid if they regressed.

[nicknaz]

check it out guys

435 first drive review

http://www.edmunds.com/bmw/4-series/2014/road-test.html

In Sport, the 435i is extremely firm and tends to jiggle over short, sharp bumps while it wallows too much in Comfort.
...

as one of the BMW chassis engineers told me, it's a marketing setting: intentionally stiff to remind people that they're in the Sport mode they paid for

adaptive suspension Sport setting dialed in for marketing purposes instead of optimized wheel control

And F30post forum members wonder why I advocate for the Option 704 fixed dampers instead of the adaptive dampers

[tranquility]

^I can't decide which is worse, that or the artificial piping of fake 'engine noise' from another car model...can't remember which one.

[supLOL]

^ It's the F10 M5 that has the artificial sound.

[jparnes1]

Sounds like a great car-lower, wider,lighter and stiffer. Terrific appearance too.

[Swervd]

Not really feeling the front bumper with the round fog lights on the 435i...everything else looks good

[tranquility]

Originally Posted by supLOL

^ It's the F10 M5 that has the artificial sound.

Oh no, BMW guilty of two more poser features now....arrgh....when will it end? Of course, not to mention how the M division has been watered down like hell and pimped out to virtually every other model.

[supLOL]

I know...I wasn't around for the earlier BMW models, but it looks like BMW isn't what it used to be in terms of sportiness.

[R1robot]

435i is much heavier and less nimble, more expensive. It doesn't make sense to buy this car unless you like its looks. If space is a deal breaker, get the E92.

[nicknaz]

Originally Posted by R1robot

435i is much heavier and less nimble

Weight for the 435 8 Spd auto is apparently 3575lb which is about the same as the e92 (and the e89)

As for nimble, a bit premature to judge before you have driven it no?

I think the only clear cut argument for e9x is getting an older one with n54 to heavily modify

[stickshifter69]

Z4 for sure! Smaller cars are much more fun to drive in the switch backs. If you need space, then wait for the 4 series.

Z4 is rare/exclusive and has a timeless look.

[R1robot]

Originally Posted by nicknaz

Weight for the 435 8 Spd auto is apparently 3575lb which is about the same as the e92 (and the e89)

As for nimble, a bit premature to judge before you have driven it no?

I think the only clear cut argument for e9x is getting an older one with n54 to heavily modify

Wow yeah i feel dumb, i just read the weight specs, its not even 100 pounds heavier than a 35i Z4, i take that back. Also, i read Chris Harris' review. Should be interesting what the M division will do to their new 4 series.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/t...ries%3A+Review

[nicknaz]

Slightly off topic but what does everyone think of the M235?

I'm way more interested in that than the 435

[Hujan]

It really depends what your other car is. To me, a Z4 35i and X5 would be an ideal garage.

Since my lady insists on driving the Z4 as her daily, I am looking to get an E90 M3 as our other car. When we have kids, we'll add an X5.

I am really not liking what I'm seeing from the 4 Series, tbh. It looks like a Honda Civic to me.

[jparnes1]

Originally Posted by Hujan

I am really not liking what I'm seeing from the 4 Series, tbh. It looks like a Honda Civic to me.

You must be wearing those special Japanese glasses my friend. That's quite a statement.

[Hujan]

Originally Posted by jparnes1

You must be wearing those special Japanese glasses my friend. That's quite a statement.

If it helps, I said "Civic" but meant "Accord." Anyway, see for yourself:

http://www.netcarshow.com/honda/2013-accord_coupe/

http://www.***********.com/attachmen...2&d=1337328362

[BMWZ4RIDER]

The 4 series is a nice machine, but the reason to buy the 4 (or 3 ) series over the Z is apples and oranges. Your buying a 4 seater hard top vs the Z and all the reasons to have a 2 seat hard top convertible sports car.

You are not in a 4 series sports car, but a 4 series sport sedan.

[CeEl]

Originally Posted by BMWZ4RIDER

The 4 series is a nice machine, but the reason to buy the 4 (or 3 ) series over the Z is apples and oranges. Your buying a 4 seater hard top vs the Z and all the reasons to have a 2 seat hard top convertible sports car.

You are not in a 4 series sports car, but a 4 series sport sedan.

Z4 is maybe a sporty car, but not a sports car ... Despite the (great) looks. I don't know, but I figure a M4 convertible if it has a hardtop may be pretty close one way or other to the driving fun of a Z4? It's not like the backseat is going to be that much more usable than the little storage area behind the seats of the Z4...