Volcanic Ash

jparnes1 · 04-16-2010, 08:02 AM

I'm supposed to leave tomorrow for ED and there's this freakin' volcano trying to mess up my plans!

I mean, I've only been planning this for something like a YEAR. WTF!!! So far Munich airport is still open. Keeping my fingers crossed.

Micky Dee · 04-16-2010, 08:06 AM

It's what we call 'Sods Law'....

I hope your flight goes ahead and you collect your new Z4! Good Luck!!!

alan64 · 04-16-2010, 08:09 AM

dont risk your life, that ash apparently really messes with the engines on planes.. its not worth it in my opinion. In the mid 80's they say that a jumbo jet went through an ash cloud and all 4 engines quite, and they were very very lucky to get them started again after a drop of 20 thousand feet.

Micky Dee · 04-16-2010, 08:11 AM

Here's the story....quite scary!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8622099.stm

jparnes1 · 04-16-2010, 08:22 AM

Well, I can only assume that if the flight's not canceled, it's safe to fly. It's going to take a lot to keep me from going.

Vintage · 04-16-2010, 08:32 AM

good luck and death to volcanoes

SHADOW4 · 04-16-2010, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by jparnes1

Well, I can only assume that if the flight's not canceled, it's safe to fly.

You can be sure of that!

Not that it helps but here you can follow the status of the ash over Europe.

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/aviation...aacuk_vag.html

There will be some windows when it's flyable in some areas, but it comes and goes. And the authories finally decides if the airspace will be open or closed.

Expect a re-route/alternate destination. Maby by train or bus as the final leg.

I hope you get there.

cdeslandes · 04-16-2010, 10:30 AM

For those of you living in Europe:

Volcanic ash is EXTREMELY abrasive! Regular street dust is likely to contain some volcanic particles over the next few weeks or months.

Make sure you rince your car thoughroughly (with a Karcher pressure washer) before having it washed, or you'll find it all scratched!

Also change your air filters more often this summer.

juhap · 04-16-2010, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by jparnes1

So far Munich airport is still open. Keeping my fingers crossed.

Looks pretty quiet above Germany...

http://www.flightradar24.com/

cdmulders · 04-16-2010, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by cdeslandes

For those of you living in Europe:

Make sure you rince your car thoughroughly (with a Karcher pressure washer) before having it washed, or you'll find it all scratched!

Rinse - definitely. Pressure washer rinse - not so sure. High pressure forcing grit into the paint can't be good. My two cents worth. I've never been a big fan of pressure washers on auto paint.

T89 · 04-16-2010, 01:13 PM

Yep was meant to go to London this weekend. I guess I'll be spending more time with my zed

T

cdeslandes · 04-16-2010, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by T89

Yep was meant to go to London this weekend. I guess I'll be spending more time with my zed

T

Take her on some tight mountain roads! You've got plenty over there.

jparnes1 · 04-16-2010, 02:41 PM

Cancellations and delays are creeping into the Munich airport, but my flight is still scheduled to depart tomorrow. This really sucks...I'm praying that this goes off as planned. Luckily my ED is not until Tuesday, so if I have to leave late I've got a buffer built in.

cdeslandes · 04-16-2010, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jparnes1

Cancellations and delays are creeping into the Munich airport, but my flight is still scheduled to depart tomorrow. This really sucks...I'm praying that this goes off as planned. Luckily my ED is not until Tuesday, so if I have to leave late I've got a buffer built in.

You're taking delivery of your car over there?

Tell us about the experience when you can! Dreaming of doing this some day.

BlueZ4AZ · 04-16-2010, 03:13 PM

Mother nature is a bi$%^ sometimes.

jparnes1 · 04-16-2010, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by cdeslandes

You're taking delivery of your car over there?

Tell us about the experience when you can! Dreaming of doing this some day.

I'd love to...if I get the chance!

ChuckB · 04-16-2010, 05:19 PM

being 90 miles south of Frankfurt, today was the first day that I have not seen a single plane or contrail, a bit spooky, and here are the latest stats as of midnight 16 Feb 2010:

Airspace closed:
Belgium
Czech Republic
Denmark
Estonia (until at least 0000 GMT Saturday)
Finland (all commercial flights grounded)
Hungary
Latvia
Netherlands
Slovakia
Switzerland

Partial closures:
Austria
France (northern airspace, with Paris airports closed until 1200 GMT Saturday)
Germany (most airports closed) - Munich is closed from this evening until tomorrow [Saturday] morning

Italy (northern airspace closed until 1200 GMT Saturday)
Lithuania (air traffic control leaving decision to fly to individual companies)
Norway (limited flights in north)
Poland
Republic of Ireland (most airspace opened Friday)
Sweden (northern airspace opened Friday)
UK (some restrictions lifted)

The last time this volcano erupted was 1811, and it lasted for 2 years. No offense to the Icelandic folks - but if you can't take care of your volcano then maybe you shouldn't have one...

jparnes1 · 04-16-2010, 06:24 PM

Hey ChuckB, thanks for the update...much appreciated. As of now, my flight is not canceled. We're supposed to land 8:30 Sunday morning in Munich. Boy I hope the airport has recovered by then.

ZLK · 04-17-2010, 01:36 AM

@jparnes1
MUC is closed until Sat noon CET.
Most of the parking space is used as many planes landed here yesterday that were supposed to land in Frankfurt or London. So it will take some time to get back to normal here.

UPDATE: MUC will be closed until Sunday.

@VintageBMW
"Death to volcanos?"" Not possible as Eyjafjallajoekull is not in Texas. Jihaaa

SHADOW4 · 04-17-2010, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by jparnes1

Hey ChuckB, thanks for the update...much appreciated. As of now, my flight is not canceled. We're supposed to land 8:30 Sunday morning in Munich. Boy I hope the airport has recovered by then.

I don't want put salt ...................... but it doesn't look too good.

I know your airline is working hard on a solotion. Start checking if there are any rental cars or traintickets to find from Italy or Spain. So far they still have a good forecast down there.

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/aviation...1271483349.png

Holding my thumbs!

ZLK · 04-17-2010, 07:50 AM

@jparnes1
It is unlikely that your plane to MUC is taking off today.
The volcano is still smoking heavily as you can see on this Live Cam.
http://eldgos.mila.is/eyjafjallajoku...thorolfsfelli/
And a high pressure area over Germany keeps the ash cloud in place.

Good luck and have a save trip.

teagueAMX · 04-17-2010, 08:44 AM

The volcanic ash must have clogged up the Doppler radar - all I got was a blank image with the little wheel going 'round and 'round.

Maybe jparnes1 in the air since his plane doesn't land until Sunday? Hopefully

04-16-2010, 08:02 AM	#1
jparnes1 Colonel 241 Rep 2,387 Posts Drives: 2016 340i, 2012 Z4 35i Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: NY iTrader: (1)	Volcanic Ash I'm supposed to leave tomorrow for ED and there's this freakin' volcano trying to mess up my plans! I mean, I've only been planning this for something like a YEAR. WTF!!! So far Munich airport is still open. Keeping my fingers crossed.
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alan64 Lieutenant 19 Rep 484 Posts Drives: z4 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: canada iTrader: (0)	dont risk your life, that ash apparently really messes with the engines on planes.. its not worth it in my opinion. In the mid 80's they say that a jumbo jet went through an ash cloud and all 4 engines quite, and they were very very lucky to get them started again after a drop of 20 thousand feet.
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04-16-2010, 08:22 AM	#5
jparnes1 Colonel 241 Rep 2,387 Posts Drives: 2016 340i, 2012 Z4 35i Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: NY iTrader: (1)	Well, I can only assume that if the flight's not canceled, it's safe to fly. It's going to take a lot to keep me from going.
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04-16-2010, 08:32 AM	#6
Vintage Colonel 378 Rep 2,588 Posts Drives: BMW G80 (MT), 718 Spyder Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Austin, Texas iTrader: (0)	good luck and death to volcanoes
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T89 Lieutenant Colonel 39 Rep 1,531 Posts Drives: Z4 35i & Mini Cooper S Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Geneva & Joburg iTrader: (0)	Yep was meant to go to London this weekend. I guess I'll be spending more time with my zed T
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jparnes1 Colonel 241 Rep 2,387 Posts Drives: 2016 340i, 2012 Z4 35i Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: NY iTrader: (1)	Cancellations and delays are creeping into the Munich airport, but my flight is still scheduled to depart tomorrow. This really sucks...I'm praying that this goes off as planned. Luckily my ED is not until Tuesday, so if I have to leave late I've got a buffer built in.
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BlueZ4AZ Go SU 33 Rep 902 Posts Drives: 2009 Z4 sDrive35i Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Chandler, AZ iTrader: (0)	Mother nature is a bi$%^ sometimes.
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ChuckB Lieutenant 17 Rep 448 Posts Drives: 2020 X2 2.0i Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Hockenheim, Germany (APO) iTrader: (0)	being 90 miles south of Frankfurt, today was the first day that I have not seen a single plane or contrail, a bit spooky, and here are the latest stats as of midnight 16 Feb 2010: Airspace closed: Belgium Czech Republic Denmark Estonia (until at least 0000 GMT Saturday) Finland (all commercial flights grounded) Hungary Latvia Netherlands Slovakia Switzerland Partial closures: Austria France (northern airspace, with Paris airports closed until 1200 GMT Saturday) Germany (most airports closed) - Munich is closed from this evening until tomorrow [Saturday] morning Italy (northern airspace closed until 1200 GMT Saturday) Lithuania (air traffic control leaving decision to fly to individual companies) Norway (limited flights in north) Poland Republic of Ireland (most airspace opened Friday) Sweden (northern airspace opened Friday) UK (some restrictions lifted) The last time this volcano erupted was 1811, and it lasted for 2 years. No offense to the Icelandic folks - but if you can't take care of your volcano then maybe you shouldn't have one...
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jparnes1 Colonel 241 Rep 2,387 Posts Drives: 2016 340i, 2012 Z4 35i Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: NY iTrader: (1)	Hey ChuckB, thanks for the update...much appreciated. As of now, my flight is not canceled. We're supposed to land 8:30 Sunday morning in Munich. Boy I hope the airport has recovered by then.
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04-17-2010, 01:36 AM	#19
ZLK New Member 0 Rep 5 Posts Drives: Z4 sDrive 35is Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Munich iTrader: (0)	@jparnes1 MUC is closed until Sat noon CET. Most of the parking space is used as many planes landed here yesterday that were supposed to land in Frankfurt or London. So it will take some time to get back to normal here. UPDATE: MUC will be closed until Sunday. @VintageBMW "Death to volcanos?"" Not possible as Eyjafjallajoekull is not in Texas. Jihaaa Last edited by ZLK; 04-17-2010 at 04:05 AM..
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04-17-2010, 07:50 AM	#21
ZLK New Member 0 Rep 5 Posts Drives: Z4 sDrive 35is Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Munich iTrader: (0)	@jparnes1 It is unlikely that your plane to MUC is taking off today. The volcano is still smoking heavily as you can see on this Live Cam. http://eldgos.mila.is/eyjafjallajoku...thorolfsfelli/ And a high pressure area over Germany keeps the ash cloud in place. Good luck and have a save trip.
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04-17-2010, 08:44 AM	#22
teagueAMX Colonel 60 Rep 2,087 Posts Drives: Some are road worthy Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: So Cal, USA iTrader: (0)	The volcanic ash must have clogged up the Doppler radar - all I got was a blank image with the little wheel going 'round and 'round. Maybe jparnes1 in the air since his plane doesn't land until Sunday? Hopefully
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