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      12-15-2013, 03:54 AM   #1
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///M stripes on black grills

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I have an question for you. Has anyone ///M stripes on Z4 with black grills? I bought new grills and I'm thinking about another modification :-). Thank you so much guys.
(I mean just sticker on it.)
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      12-15-2013, 05:29 PM   #2
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I know I've seen a member on here that had it done. Interesting look; looked pretty good! If I stumble across it again I'll let you know.
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      12-16-2013, 03:32 AM   #3
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I'm not so sure on things like this. I don't mind people making their cars their own, its their car after all, but I do so hate it when people make their cars out to be something they're not. Like an M when it simply isn't an M.
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      12-16-2013, 04:51 AM   #4
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Well I understand you as well. I do not like it too, but when you have M packet and 35iS its like ///M. But I agree with you
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      12-16-2013, 05:00 AM   #5
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Well I understand you as well. I do not like it too, but when you have M packet and 35iS its like ///M. But I agree with you
But its not. The M styling pack is just a bit of trim, or slightly stiffer shocks, it has no impact on the car's drivability like a real M car does. An M car has been engineered, engine, suspension, steering etc has all been developed and modified by a completely different, race bred division called 'M'. A non M car, no matter how many badges, is not an M and that's where I grumble when people try to make or imply their car is something it is not.

I blame BMW to some extent for this, but they're not alone. 'M Sport' implies a connection to 'M' division that simply does not exist. Mercedes are doing the same now where you can buy, for example, an E class saloon 2.1 diesel 'AMG'. Its not an AMG, its been nowhere near AMG, its a slow diesel saloon with complete focus on economy and they put different bodywork on it, just like BMW do, but it does not drive like an AMG and has no AMG specific parts.

Its branding to fool us.. which doesn't work with me I'm afraid. Typically they cream another £3000-£4000 from us in the UK to get M Sport or AMG Pack cars when they don't cost BMW any more to manufacture and bring nothing more to the table than bodywork or perhaps slightly stiffer or lowered shocks which require no more investment or development than the OEM stock kit.

Beef over.. for now lol.
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      12-16-2013, 05:16 AM   #6
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Well I understand you as well. I do not like it too, but when you have M packet and 35iS its like ///M. But I agree with you
But its not. The M styling pack is just a bit of trim, or slightly stiffer shocks, it has no impact on the car's drivability like a real M car does. An M car has been engineered, engine, suspension, steering etc has all been developed and modified by a completely different, race bred division called 'M'. A non M car, no matter how many badges, is not an M and that's where I grumble when people try to make or imply their car is something it is not.

I blame BMW to some extent for this, but they're not alone. 'M Sport' implies a connection to 'M' division that simply does not exist. Mercedes are doing the same now where you can buy, for example, an E class saloon 2.1 diesel 'AMG'. Its not an AMG, its been nowhere near AMG, its a slow diesel saloon with complete focus on economy and they put different bodywork on it, just like BMW do, but it does not drive like an AMG and has no AMG specific parts.

Its branding to fool us.. which doesn't work with me I'm afraid. Typically they cream another 3000-4000 from us in the UK to get M Sport or AMG Pack cars when they don't cost BMW any more to manufacture and bring nothing more to the table than bodywork or perhaps slightly stiffer or lowered shocks which require no more investment or development than the OEM stock kit.

Beef over.. for now lol.
Well, Im stillness :-). I agree with you.
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      12-16-2013, 05:45 AM   #7
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lol sorry, I'm going on a bit aren't I It's up to the owner at the end of the day. If you want to do it, do it.
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      12-16-2013, 07:41 AM   #8
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Saw them on ebay under BMW M stripes.
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      12-16-2013, 08:20 AM   #9
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nothing wrong with displaying a little M colors to show enthusiasm. It doesn't really imply it's an M car, just decals afterall.
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I didn't say it was wrong, just that I didn't like it personally. As far as 'showing enthusiasm' is concerned, that translates, for me, into 'making it something its not'. Like those cheap boxes you see on the road with 'Turbo', 'Sport' and 'V8' on the back when in fact they are none of those things. M colours imply M and I simply don't like to see M colours used on a non M.
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      12-16-2013, 09:06 AM   #11
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It is all BMWs fault. I have a 35is and it has ///M all over it. I did not buy it for the labels and I would prefer they were not there. Instead of diluting their ///M brand they should have come up with a better branding concept. Maybe something like ///S for having the Sport package. That way they leverage the ///M heritage without diluting it. Those who know BMW know what the car is.
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      12-16-2013, 09:15 AM   #12
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It is all BMWs fault. I have a 35is and it has ///M all over it. I did not buy it for the labels and I would prefer they were not there. Instead of diluting their ///M brand they should have come up with a better branding concept. Maybe something like ///S for having the Sport package. That way they leverage the ///M heritage without diluting it. Those who know BMW know what the car is.
All brands have their Sports brand and then the sports line.. Examples Theres an Audi S5 and there's an A5 S-Line, there's Mercedes E65 AMG and theres E-Class AMG packet etc...
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All brands have their Sports brand and then the sports line.. Examples Theres an Audi S5 and there's an A5 S-Line, there's Mercedes E65 AMG and theres E-Class AMG packet etc...
I am not saying BMW is the only one doing this. I just think from a marketing perspective you are taking a brand you spent a lot of time building up and diluting it as way to enhance a lower brand product. It's done in other markets besides automobiles as well.

The end result of brand dilution usually is that you sell less or have to lower the price of the premium brand as it no longer has the distinction it had. For most companies I think they look at the increase $ from the lower brand as offsetting. My feeling after doing marketing for years is you lose an intangible to your overall brand that is never made up in $.
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      12-16-2013, 12:32 PM   #14
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but I do so hate it when people make their cars out to be something they're not.
Aren't the majority of debadged M / AMG / S appearance package cars small displacement diesels in UK and Europe?

You must be walking around in fits of rage all the time

I have a neighbor that has gone all the way with this and badged this C300 with C63 black series badging. He also took out the mufflers and change to quad tips. It is TOO hilarious
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      12-16-2013, 12:37 PM   #15
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Here's mine on the track at Pocono with the stripes on the black grills.
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Here's mine on the track at Pocono with the stripes on the black grills.
Oh my god! It looks awesome! Thanks man!
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      12-16-2013, 02:01 PM   #17
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Pretender or not - I might have to add those.
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plus, they match my roundels
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i had it them removed it since my car is not an m3 i went with the german flag colors...

looks sick!
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Here's mine on the track at Pocono with the stripes on the black grills.
That looks great!
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