Scary comments on Z4 test drive

ZStig · 04-25-2009, 12:18 AM

don't worry guys, the z2's target weight is 2200lbs

Z4 Steve · 04-26-2009, 06:46 AM

To me I feel that the 2009 Z4 is targeted to a different audience than the past Z4. It is more luxurious.

aheinz_71 · 04-26-2009, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Z4 Steve

To me I feel that the 2009 Z4 is targeted to a different audience than the past Z4. It is more luxurious.

Where have you been hiding the past 4 months?

Yes it is more luxurious. It is targeting the SLK audience.

The more sporty E85 did not sell well and was a big flop for BMW. If they want to change this, why would they develop a successor and make it equally or even more sporty?

But this has been discussed for some time now.

Please don't feel offended but we have been past this type of discussion for some time now. Why start it all over again?

blue-coupe · 04-28-2009, 11:17 AM

All the more reason to wait for the Z2, or pick up a 2007 Z4MC.

handxx · 04-30-2009, 02:45 AM

Can somebody compare the dimension differences and also weight between previous gen I guess E85 z4 to current new z4? I heard new z4 will be bigger and heavier but any number comparisons anybody have ??

jgorman13 · 04-30-2009, 12:04 PM

ok, whoever said bmw wasnt aiming for the boxster is dead wrong. They may be positioned closer to the SLK and over the TT as opposed to before, but this is a $45,000+ bare bones roadster without even power seats. They are very much looking to lure buyers away from the porsche lot.

aheinz_71 · 04-30-2009, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jgorman13

ok, whoever said bmw wasnt aiming for the boxster is dead wrong. They may be positioned closer to the SLK and over the TT as opposed to before, but this is a $45,000+ bare bones roadster without even power seats. They are very much looking to lure buyers away from the porsche lot.

Just because the Z4 and the Porsche Boxster are priced similarly in the US does not mean that this is the case in the rest of the world.

In Europe there is a considerable price difference between the two (and if you believe the reviews also in terms of handling).

If BMW was targeting the Boxster, then why does the internal marketing material only compare the Z4 against the SLK and TT??? Because these are the products they are targeting.

Believe it, the Boxster crowd is not the target (and they know why). They go for Merc and Audi.

strider41 · 04-30-2009, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by handxx

Can somebody compare the dimension differences and also weight between previous gen I guess E85 z4 to current new z4? I heard new z4 will be bigger and heavier but any number comparisons anybody have ??

The dimensions might also suggest the car market that is being targeted. Some believe it is the MB SLK and Audi TT that are targeted. Is it possible that the MB SL is also a target?

The new Z4 seems aimed at that luxury market as well. I don't think Porsche Boxster or 911 is the target because sports car performance is not the priority emphasis. Luxury is.

Alext · 05-01-2009, 12:12 AM

SLK is BMW's primary target. If they lure buyers away from Porsche then that is an added bonus.

aheinz_71 · 05-01-2009, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Alext

SLK is BMW's primary target. If they lure buyers away from Porsche then that is an added bonus.

Exactly.

This has also lead some former Z4 (E85) owners to the term: ZLK for the new E89 (since they wanted another soft top instead of the hard top and are now disappointed

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GnokGnik · 05-02-2009, 05:22 PM

Sporty and hardtop convertible are hard concepts to combine. I think BMW did an awesome job with the new z4 and I am a s2000 fan. Like some other posters have said, this z4 focuses on being a fast cruiser instead of the half cruiser-half miataish e8* z4. Lets just hope that the z2 will satisfy the sports roadster lovers among us (preferably with a high revving i4 a la s2000).

E82tt6 · 05-02-2009, 07:51 PM

I think the price/performance made it clear this car is a status symbol, I dunno why people are suprised by it not having sportscar handling.

Merefield · 05-04-2009, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by aheinz_71

The more sporty E85 did not sell well and was a big flop for BMW.

Big Flop?? How do you arrive at that conclusion?? Here in London there are dozens and dozens of them. It was a huge success and many owners love them. Sure they aren't perfect, but neither it seems is the new car, yet its supposed to be a improvement ...

epbrown · 05-10-2009, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by jgorman13

ok, whoever said bmw wasnt aiming for the boxster is dead wrong. They may be positioned closer to the SLK and over the TT as opposed to before, but this is a $45,000+ bare bones roadster without even power seats. They are very much looking to lure buyers away from the porsche lot.

Not this time around. The previous car was aimed at the Boxster market - the internal press materials mention the Boxster, Audi TT, and SLK - but the current car is meant to be softer and more up-market.

KevinC · 05-11-2009, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Merefield

Looks like the M division has got its work cut out on this one!

Yeah, and they'll have experience under their belts (or dresses?) with the X5 & X6 bloatmobiles, so maybe they can tame this pig. I'm guessing NOT.

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E82tt6 Colonel 103 Rep 2,626 Posts Drives: '08 Black Saphire Z4 MC Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: New Jersey iTrader: (0)	I think the price/performance made it clear this car is a status symbol, I dunno why people are suprised by it not having sportscar handling. __________________ '08 Black Saphire/Black Z4 M Coupe RIP Gretta: Blue Water/Lemon 135i. Died to save me. -ChuckV
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