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      11-19-2013, 04:12 AM   #1
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cold start prb?

First time it happened to me, I left my car outside for 6 hours in 2C/36F weather and when I started the car, it was shuddering and had the 'yellow engine' symbol on. I tried to put it in D but it automatically went into N. The engine felt like it was dying and just wouldn't get into gear. I then switched it off, waited a few seconds, and restarted it, this time it was ok. Still, a minute into the drive, when I made a stop at a stop sign, the engine was shuddering a wee bit. Afterwards, the rest of the drive was normal/uneventful.

Is this just weather-related or should I get it checked? I've driven/parked in similar weather conditions for the past 2 winters but this was the first time I experienced the 'shuddering' and 'yellow engine' symbol. If useful, car is 3.5 years old and over 100,000km/60,000miles. Thx in advance.
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These cars are tested in much lower temps, its a problem, get it checked, you don't want to be left stranded.
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      11-19-2013, 05:43 AM   #3
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Now you know how Rob Ford feels when he gets up on a cold day
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      11-19-2013, 05:58 AM   #4
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Mine started acting same way 1 week ago. Threw codes for cylinder 5 misfire, multiple misfire. Cleared codes. It was fine once running for a few minutes. next cold start P29D1,D2,D0,CC. 31,000 mi. At dealer now. I will advise my outcome.
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      11-19-2013, 06:23 AM   #5
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cold start not a problem in current temp. you may want your dealer to take a look at that check engine light. I hope you still have warranty.
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Unfortunately warranty long gone.

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Mine started acting same way 1 week ago. Threw codes for cylinder 5 misfire, multiple misfire. Cleared codes. It was fine once running for a few minutes. next cold start P29D1,D2,D0,CC. 31,000 mi. At dealer now. I will advise my outcome.
Thx, hopefully nothing too serious.

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Now you know how Rob Ford feels when he gets up on a cold day
LOL, that is so stretching, just because I live in Toronto? Doesn't even make sense, you need to try harder. Besides, that guy is so fat, doubtful he's ever had a cold day w/ all that insulating blubber.

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      11-19-2013, 09:36 AM   #7
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Dealer just called..... Replacing all injectors. Will let you know if anything else is done after I pick it up tomorrow (they want to do cold start in AM expected temp 0C).
Warranty work.
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Dealer just called..... Replacing all injectors. Will let you know if anything else is done after I pick it up tomorrow (they want to do cold start in AM expected temp 0C).
Warranty work.
Do you mean sparkplugs? I just had them replaced 87,000km/54,000miles. This is concerning...
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No. Fuel injectors. I initially thought it would have been spark plugs.
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Darn, I wonder how much that'll set me back.
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      11-19-2013, 09:21 PM   #11
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Darn, I wonder how much that'll set me back.
Here is one of many threads on n54tech.com, search injectors.

http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showth...ight=injectors
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      11-20-2013, 01:14 AM   #12
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Started again under similar situation tonight, no prb...maybe a 1-time thing?

Not sure would tranny fluid have anything to do w/ this...? In any event, will probably do that '2 year check' thing that I put off for so long since my oil change is coming up.
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Dealer just called..... Replacing all injectors. Will let you know if anything else is done after I pick it up tomorrow (they want to do cold start in AM expected temp 0C).
Warranty work.
Dealer replaced all injectors (tried to get away with doing 1 bank first based on codes) and plugs. Early oil change, brake fluid, and microfilter. Couldn't get them to replace coils... Also needed valve cover gasket.

Will pick up later today.
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Started again under similar situation tonight, no prb...maybe a 1-time thing?

Not sure would tranny fluid have anything to do w/ this...? In any event, will probably do that '2 year check' thing that I put off for so long since my oil change is coming up.
Coils or injectors failing can start off an intermittent.

If I was paying out of pocket, I would start with coils, then injector cleaner, and only replace the injectors one bank at a time as the final step.
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^Thx, I'm due for a checkup anyway...I assume that dealer will be able to know that the car showed the 'yellow engine' symbol that night and figure out what's going on?
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      11-21-2013, 12:07 PM   #16
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Just got home with car. Final tally:

6 injectors
6 coils
6 spark plugs
1 valve cover (cracked) and gasket

Early oil change
Early brake fluid service
Early microfilter

Cost:0 Warranty

Car runs great better than when I bought it in May.
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Just got home with car. Final tally:

6 injectors
6 coils
6 spark plugs
1 valve cover (cracked) and gasket

Early oil change
Early brake fluid service
Early microfilter

Cost:0 Warranty

Car runs great better than when I bought it in May.
I'm out of warranty so that sucks if I need all that. Had my 2nd cold start limp, so definitely have to book an appt.
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Just got home with car. Final tally:

6 injectors
6 coils
6 spark plugs
1 valve cover (cracked) and gasket

Early oil change
Early brake fluid service
Early microfilter

Cost:0 Warranty

Car runs great better than when I bought it in May.
Whoa. That is the best argument for OEM extended warranty. You should post that next time the topic comes up.

Such a coincidence this thread came up on our forums. A friend recently had the same issue and fix on his 2008 335. I wonder if this is just part and parcel of having an N54
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Holy crap, lets hope this isn't a systemic thing, I've had enough go wrong with my car without all that too!
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      11-25-2013, 09:13 PM   #20
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It was covered under the last year of original 4 year warranty (up in March 2014). Have 2 more years (till march of 2016) as car was CPO. Shop supervisor was great but needed to play by BMW rules to replace what he did.
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Just had exactly the same issue with cold start. They replaced the plug and coil. I will pick it up in the morning. I think this could be the start of something that so many people are having the same issue. Mine was fixed at 46K miles so just under warranty.
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Just had exactly the same issue with cold start. They replaced the plug and coil. I will pick it up in the morning. I think this could be the start of something that so many people are having the same issue. Mine was fixed at 46K miles so just under warranty.
Any idea what it would've cost w/o warranty? Thx.

EDIT: what are plug and coil? Regret being car-illiterate.
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