JB3 VS 35is

bobbydog · 05-12-2010, 12:17 AM

I'm running JB3 map 3. Wonder how it stacks up against the 35is? I mean how much does software plays a factor in how much better the car performs? I just had my software updated to the latest version firmware at the dealer and everything feels smoother. From engine to transmission. Do they use a different version firmware for the 35is?

Micky Dee · 05-12-2010, 01:09 AM

Is this secret code?

teagueAMX · 05-12-2010, 06:25 AM

Here we go again!

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mrboon · 05-12-2010, 08:00 AM

i bet jb3 beats 35is no problem

siscobmw · 05-12-2010, 09:13 AM

question : jb3 on 35is is possible?
Can we reach 400 BHP?

Memphis1 · 05-12-2010, 09:20 AM

nice one teagueAMX!

mrboon · 05-12-2010, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by siscobmw

question : jb3 on 35is is possible?
Can we reach 400 BHP?

well yeah of course, but ull neat some extra kit....

really the JB3 on a 35i or 35is is no different.

both cars have the same hardware....

bobbydog · 05-12-2010, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by godius

i bet jb3 beats 35is no problem

Godius, any problems with jb3 running with map 5? what octane do you use in spain, 91 or 93? any codes?

teagueAMX · 05-12-2010, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Memphis1

nice one teagueAMX!

Thought you would appreciate it - that was one of yours.

mrboon · 05-13-2010, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by bobbydog

Godius, any problems with jb3 running with map 5? what octane do you use in spain, 91 or 93? any codes?

I had 2 error codes once when i was still running map 5 on jb3 v1.4. Both happened when i reached top speed. With v2.0 never had any codes.

I always use BP Ultimate, its expensive, but pretty much the best you can get. They market it as Octane 100.

Vintage · 05-13-2010, 07:09 AM

the highest octane available at retail stores in the US is 93 - you can buy higher but you have to go to race/specialty fuel stores

mav5125 · 05-13-2010, 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbydog

I'm running JB3 map 3. Wonder how it stacks up against the 35is? I mean how much does software plays a factor in how much better the car performs? I just had my software updated to the latest version firmware at the dealer and everything feels smoother. From engine to transmission. Do they use a different version firmware for the 35is?

so you just went to your bmw dealership and asked them to update the firmware on the car. They plug it in, 5 mins later it's all done?

any cost?
All dealership should have this right?

bobbydog · 05-13-2010, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by mav5125

so you just went to your bmw dealership and asked them to update the firmware on the car. They plug it in, 5 mins later it's all done?

any cost?
All dealership should have this right?

I had a very minor problem with the sound system. To fix it they had to update the software of the car...it took like 6 hours!!
Apparently everything is linked and you can't just fix one thing, you have to update the firmware. But since I had the firmware updated, the transmission feels MUCH SMOOTHER. They'd do it at no cost to you during the schedule maintenance or if you have any problems with the car.

Wraith. · 05-13-2010, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by bobbydog

I had a very minor problem with the sound system. To fix it they had to update the software of the car...it took like 6 hours!!
Apparently everything is linked and you can't just fix one thing, you have to update the firmware. But since I had the firmware updated, the transmission feels MUCH SMOOTHER. They'd do it at no cost to you during the schedule maintenance or if you have any problems with the car.

Like flashing the Mother Board/Graphics Cards with the latest Bios/Drivers..., makes sense.

juhap · 05-13-2010, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Wraith.

Like flashing the Mother Board/Graphics Cards with the latest Bios/Drivers..., makes sense.

Soon we'll start receiving over-the-air updates with a request to restart the car.

dwagner00 · 05-13-2010, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by juhap

Soon we'll start receiving over-the-air updates with a request to restart the car.

BMW assist already exists as a communication path. It may simply be a matter of software.

cdeslandes · 05-13-2010, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by juhap

Soon we'll start receiving over-the-air updates with a request to restart the car.

I can picture this already...

The nav screen turns blue, and reads "please hit iDrive button to reboot car" while you're at 80 mph in 3rd gear on a mountain road...

s2000jan · 05-14-2010, 05:07 AM

as stated elsewhere, the new ECU's in the 35i engines (both 35i and 35iS) have been changed by BMW to make it much harder to crack ... don't know how the jb software works ...

M II · 05-18-2010, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbydog

I'm running JB3 map 3. Wonder how it stacks up against the 35is? I mean how much does software plays a factor in how much better the car performs? I just had my software updated to the latest version firmware at the dealer and everything feels smoother. From engine to transmission. Do they use a different version firmware for the 35is?

They just did a firmware upgrade. Yours was just outdated. They do this for vehicles coming in to service and that didn't have a TSB done previously.

Quote:

Originally Posted by godius

i bet jb3 beats 35is no problem

Absolutely no problem!

Quote:

Originally Posted by siscobmw

question : jb3 on 35is is possible?
Can we reach 400 BHP?

They have different ECUs so it hasn't actually been done. I'll go ahead and contact Burger Tuning to see if this is in the works.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbydog

I had a very minor problem with the sound system. To fix it they had to update the software of the car...it took like 6 hours!!
Apparently everything is linked and you can't just fix one thing, you have to update the firmware. But since I had the firmware updated, the transmission feels MUCH SMOOTHER. They'd do it at no cost to you during the schedule maintenance or if you have any problems with the car.

Nice!

mcbeee · 05-25-2010, 12:59 PM

I just went through a bunch of hoops etc regarding software. I had Rev 759 and wanted the Dinan Stage II put in , BUT the dinan Stage II was written to communicate with Rev 760 and when the dealer tried to update the BMW software it defaults to the latest version Rev 761. So now we had to wait for the new dinan package to be written for Rev 761.
After sending the ECU to California for the remap (the internet version wasn't done yet) I finally got it done. The car is smooth as silk, the DCT is excellent and the car feels like M power. Actually it is quicker then my old M3 was

The BMW software cost me $135 to get done because there was no "BMW" reason to do it. If I'd needed a part replaced then it would have been free...

Note:
I looked at the JB chips and decided to go with the Dinan for a few reasons, warranty and the total remap of the systems instead of just the pressure boost . I'm not saying one is better than the other, it was just my choice.

Ciao.

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