Epa Down Grade New Engine Mpg

48redlands · 03-22-2012, 05:49 PM

Why is it only the 3 series, 5, z4 must surely be affected

BMW has downgraded its fuel-economy ratings for the 2012 328i after the Environmental Protection Agency published lower figures during its own tests, the company said Wednesday.

The 4-cylinder 328i automatic, which BMW had estimated and promoted with a 24 mpg city/36 mpg highway rating months earlier, is now rated at 23/33. What's strange, however, is that this is the exact rating for the 300 horsepower 335i, which has a larger 3.0-liter inline-six engine.

"This one is kind of an aberration," BMW spokesman Thomas Plucinsky told MSN Autos. "It doesn't fit to what we see in real life."

The EPA requires automakers to conduct their own fuel-economy testing, and only audits 10 to 15 percent of all new cars each year. While ratings can and do change after initial estimates, they typically only vary as much as 1 mpg up or down.

BMW said the EPA tested the same 328i that it used during its own testing. The EPA does not allow retesting during the same year. The manual-transmission 328i is unaffected, at 23 mpg city/34 mpg highway.

Initial media reports about the 2012 328i praised the turbocharged 2.0-liter sedan for besting the EPA highway and combined ratings of the 6-cylinder 335d, a diesel model that was offered in limited numbers from the 2009 to 2011 model years. The new 328i features an 8-speed automatic, which still handily beats the previous car's 18/28 mpg rating and its 6-speed automatic.

rfx45 · 03-22-2012, 06:01 PM

I read this a couple of days ago and the 28i doesn't seem affected because Z4s mpg declaration wasn't as high as the 328i's. Sdrive28i only declared 20% increase from the 30i's 18/28 and that would put it right around 22/32.

Could be wrong though, I'll look at what is printed on the sticker of my car later. But one thing I am sure of, been getting 25mpg on strictly city driving for the past month or so. Still breaking it in though so no heavy foot driving yet.

48redlands · 03-22-2012, 08:26 PM

how is that new engine, still have 2 yrs on my lease so i have the last 3.0i, i love mine, but that new engine sounds good.

rfx45 · 03-22-2012, 10:29 PM

I guess they did lower the fuel economy for the Sdrive28i as well, BMWUSA.com has it at 22/32 right now while the sticker on my car has 23/34. Anyway BMW rectifies this by giving us free stuff?

I mean that is a pretty big false advertisement.

bmwmick · 03-23-2012, 03:04 PM

How could ANYONE give any credence to something spewed by the corrupt epa organization?

Baremeg55 · 03-23-2012, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by rfx45

I guess they did lower the fuel economy for the Sdrive28i as well, BMWUSA.com has it at 22/32 right now while the sticker on my car has 23/34. Anyway BMW rectifies this by giving us free stuff?

I mean that is a pretty big false advertisement.

I don't think you will get any freebies.... From my take, BMW weren't pleased nor in agreement with the test results. I guess they will pursue additional testing and discussion with the EPA.

I don't think you can compare this to the recent court case against Toyota (?) regarding greatly overstated mileage rates.

Baremeg55 · 03-23-2012, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Baremeg55

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Originally Posted by rfx45

I guess they did lower the fuel economy for the Sdrive28i as well, BMWUSA.com has it at 22/32 right now while the sticker on my car has 23/34. Anyway BMW rectifies this by giving us free stuff?

I mean that is a pretty big false advertisement.

I don't think you will get any freebies.... From my take, BMW weren't pleased nor in agreement with the test results. I guess they will pursue additional testing and discussion with the EPA.

I don't think you can compare this to the recent court case against Toyota (?) regarding greatly overstated mileage rates.

Speaking of freebies, I got my 2GB USB flash drive in the mail this week. I was greatly disappointed it wasn't clad in 24C gold. Oh well.....

rfx45 · 03-23-2012, 05:44 PM

I wasn't really expecting anything for free but it certainly wouldn't hurt to get a free t-shirt or an e-mail explaining what they plan to do.

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48redlands Enlisted Member 5 Rep 34 Posts Drives: 2011 z4 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Miami iTrader: (0)	Epa Down Grade New Engine Mpg Why is it only the 3 series, 5, z4 must surely be affected BMW has downgraded its fuel-economy ratings for the 2012 328i after the Environmental Protection Agency published lower figures during its own tests, the company said Wednesday. The 4-cylinder 328i automatic, which BMW had estimated and promoted with a 24 mpg city/36 mpg highway rating months earlier, is now rated at 23/33. What's strange, however, is that this is the exact rating for the 300 horsepower 335i, which has a larger 3.0-liter inline-six engine. "This one is kind of an aberration," BMW spokesman Thomas Plucinsky told MSN Autos. "It doesn't fit to what we see in real life." The EPA requires automakers to conduct their own fuel-economy testing, and only audits 10 to 15 percent of all new cars each year. While ratings can and do change after initial estimates, they typically only vary as much as 1 mpg up or down. BMW said the EPA tested the same 328i that it used during its own testing. The EPA does not allow retesting during the same year. The manual-transmission 328i is unaffected, at 23 mpg city/34 mpg highway. Initial media reports about the 2012 328i praised the turbocharged 2.0-liter sedan for besting the EPA highway and combined ratings of the 6-cylinder 335d, a diesel model that was offered in limited numbers from the 2009 to 2011 model years. The new 328i features an 8-speed automatic, which still handily beats the previous car's 18/28 mpg rating and its 6-speed automatic.
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rfx45 Lieutenant 39 Rep 560 Posts Drives: E89 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: CA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2012 BMW Z4 [8.50]	I read this a couple of days ago and the 28i doesn't seem affected because Z4s mpg declaration wasn't as high as the 328i's. Sdrive28i only declared 20% increase from the 30i's 18/28 and that would put it right around 22/32. Could be wrong though, I'll look at what is printed on the sticker of my car later. But one thing I am sure of, been getting 25mpg on strictly city driving for the past month or so. Still breaking it in though so no heavy foot driving yet. __________________ *2012 Z4*
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