2011 Z4 35i premium sound: 10 speakers or 14?

[2011Z4]

There's conflicting info on the web about the premium sound. Some say it's 10 speakers, while others say 14.

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Premiu...n.-a0143820463

http://reviews.cnet.com/convertible/...ml?tag=rvwBody

Anyone know the truth here? It will play into my decision where to get the Z4.

Thanks....
David

[mcbeee]

Try lucky 13...

http://www.bmw.com/com/en/insights/t...al_logic7.html

[2011Z4]

Originally Posted by mcbeee

Try lucky 13...

http://www.bmw.com/com/en/insights/t...al_logic7.html

That's not for the Z4, however. The Z4's don't have Logic 7.

[mcbeee]

Check the spec sheet on the configurator...it's in the options and requires the Exec package (in Canada)

They are probably lying and have less speakers because of the smaller cabin in the Zed....I believe I counted 11 in mine (some are double speakers in one location)

[2011Z4]

Originally Posted by mcbeee

Check the spec sheet on the configurator...it's in the options and requires the Exec package (in Canada)

They are probably lying and have less speakers because of the smaller cabin in the Zed....I believe I counted 11 in mine (some are double speakers in one location)

Where do you find this? I have printed out the PDF file on the Z4 and don't see the specs on the premium sound anywhere.

[mcbeee]

In the options it is listed as Logic 7 and if you check it off it requires the Executive Package. This is on the Canadian BMW site, the options and packages are different north and south of the 49th parallel. Also if you do a search for logic 7 on the net you get "http://www.bmw.com/com/en/insights/t...al_logic7.html"

[HerrK]

Originally Posted by 2011Z4

There's conflicting info on the web about the premium sound. Some say it's 10 speakers, while others say 14.

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Premiu...n.-a0143820463

http://reviews.cnet.com/convertible/...ml?tag=rvwBody

Anyone know the truth here? It will play into my decision where to get the Z4.

Thanks....
David

14 speakers in the US spec vehicles with premium sound (12 grills). See Dia 65 on the following link if you want to count them for yourself. 2 in the dash, 2 in each door, 2 in each footwell, 2 behind the seats, 2 in the center back grill, 1 on each side of back wall (behind seats).

http://www.penskeparts.com/DiagramsM...5&rnd=03192010

[2011Z4]

Originally Posted by mcbeee

In the options it is listed as Logic 7 and if you check it off it requires the Executive Package. This is on the Canadian BMW site, the options and packages are different north and south of the 49th parallel. Also if you do a search for logic 7 on the net you get "http://www.bmw.com/com/en/insights/t...al_logic7.html"

That's a tricky page. The first link is NOT Logic 7. It says "Hi Fi Professional" on the bottom right. If you click on LOGIC 7 and then "cars that have Logic 7", the Z4 is not one of them.

Just got an email back from my sales guy. Dealership confirms it is NOT Logic 7 in the Z4.

[mstevens]

Originally Posted by 2011Z4

Anyone know the truth here? It will play into my decision where to get the Z4.

OK, I'll bite: how will the number of speakers affect where you buy a car?

[2011Z4]

Originally Posted by mstevens

OK, I'll bite: how will the number of speakers affect where you buy a car?

Because sound is important to me. I guess you could call me an "audiophile", though I hate that word...makes me sound like a pervert.

I'm sure what you're going to say next is that:
a) sound isn't a reason to decide between cars
b) The # of speakers doesn't matter

I'll answer in advance. I have over 8,000 CD's and 7 ipods filled with music. Music is a big part of my life. I want my car to have the best sound possible. Is that so wrong?

And the second part...surely a 14-speaker, 650 system will be more powerful (and likely better sounding) than a 10-speaker, 245 watt system. I am trying to find out because there are no Z4's with premium sound in my area to test drive. I'd have to drive about 300 miles to accomplish that.

Sorry if I gave too much information, but trust that I answered your query.

[teagueAMX]

Originally Posted by 2011Z4

Because sound is important to me. I guess you could call me an "audiophile", though I hate that word...makes me sound like a pervert.

. . .I have over 8,000 CD's and 7 ipods filled with music. Music is a big part of my life. I want my car to have the best sound possible. Is that so wrong?

Sorry if I gave too much information, but trust that I answered your query.

Not TMI for me, but from one audiophile to another (and I got started in the late 60's when people built their own systems), the Z4 audio system is pretty good but not the "best sound possible".

I think what you meant was the best sound possible offered by BMW in a Z4, correct?

FWIW.

Cheers

[mcbeee]

Originally Posted by 2011Z4

That's a tricky page. The first link is NOT Logic 7. It says "Hi Fi Professional" on the bottom right. If you click on LOGIC 7 and then "cars that have Logic 7", the Z4 is not one of them.

Just got an email back from my sales guy. Dealership confirms it is NOT Logic 7 in the Z4.

Those tricky bas*ards, get you in the fine print. I thought it wasn't a big enough cabin, no rear doors etc....

[2011Z4]

Originally Posted by teagueAMX

Not TMI for me, but from one audiophile to another (and I got started in the late 60's when people built their own systems), the Z4 audio system is pretty good but not the "best sound possible".

I think what you meant was the best sound possible offered by BMW in a Z4, correct?

FWIW.

Cheers

Yes, exactly. I mean, I know people spend thousands and thousands of dollars to get the very high-end systems....which I won't do. I just want the best possible sound in the Z4. I am comparing the Z4 to the Mercedes SLK350, which I think has excellent sound (even the base 9-speaker system blew me away).

The stereo will make an impact on my choice. I'm not going aftermarket, cause it's a lease.

[2011Z4]

Originally Posted by mcbeee

Those tricky bas*ards, get you in the fine print. I thought it wasn't a big enough cabin, no rear doors etc....

LOL....exactly.

[mstevens]

Originally Posted by 2011Z4

trust that I answered your query.

Nope.

I can understand why someone might think more speakers would be better. I disagree, but I understand it.

I can understand why choice of sound system might affect which car a person might buy.

What I can't understand is how the number of speakers would affect WHERE a person might buy a given model of car.

[2011Z4]

Originally Posted by mstevens

Nope.

I can understand why someone might think more speakers would be better. I disagree, but I understand it.

I can understand why choice of sound system might affect which car a person might buy.

What I can't understand is how the number of speakers would affect WHERE a person might buy a given model of car.

Aaaaah, now I get what you're saying. Just a typo on my part. I should have said WHETHER I get the Z4.....not WHERE.

So you're really don't think that whether a system has 14 speakers, 650 watts or 10 speakers, 235 watts matters all that much, potentially? When you're talking about a car like BMW, I think it matters a great deal. Maybe if it's a Yugo, it's no big deal, as the quality likely won't be there either way....but I think BMW owners on this forum and others opt for the more powerful system every time. I just wanted to know whether we're talking 10 or 14 speakers....and the considerably more powerful system.

Yeah, it matters.

[2011Z4]

Originally Posted by HerrK

14 speakers in the US spec vehicles with premium sound (12 grills). See Dia 65 on the following link if you want to count them for yourself. 2 in the dash, 2 in each door, 2 in each footwell, 2 behind the seats, 2 in the center back grill, 1 on each side of back wall (behind seats).

http://www.penskeparts.com/DiagramsM...5&rnd=03192010

Thanks for this, by the way. I think 14 is correct, since hi-fi professional is also apparently the same as premium sound. And the hi-fi professional has 14 speakers.

[HerrK]

BTW - I have the premium sound and from my perspective (an old man with tinitus) it actually sounds quite good. I especially like it @ 80 mph with the top down. Anyway in years past, when music was imprinted on black disks, I owned a nice 300W Harmon Kardon amp/preamp w/JBL L65 which was a quite good home system for the day. IMO the premium sound is at least equal to that and the small cabin of the Z actually has good acoustics.

Irregardless of the quality of the sound system many times I turn it off and listen to the sweet sounds emanating from the TT exhaust system - which is still my most favorite music.

[2011Z4]

Originally Posted by HerrK

BTW - I have the premium sound and from my perspective (an old man with tinitus) it actually sounds quite good. I especially like it @ 80 mph with the top down. Anyway in years past, when music was imprinted on black disks, I owned a nice 300W Harmon Kardon amp/preamp w/JBL L65 which was a quite good home system for the day. IMO the premium sound is at least equal to that and the small cabin of the Z actually has good acoustics.

Irregardless of the quality of the sound system many times I turn it off and listen to the sweet sounds emanating from the TT exhaust system - which is still my most favorite music.

HerrK....that's good to know, thanks. I will be finally test driving the 35i this weekend, and it supposedly has the premium sound, so I'll get to hear for myself.

[rmorin49]

You will likely be disappointed in the BMW sound system. It is not one of the better ones offered in today's automobiles. Even the "premium" system in the Z4 is lacking. The Logic 7 in my 335i was much better. If a sound system is one of the most important facets of your car, you might well look elsewhere. The stereo in my R32 is better than the Z4. Good luck with your choice.

[mcbeee]

Originally Posted by HerrK

BTW - I have the premium sound and from my perspective (an old man with tinitus) it actually sounds quite good. I especially like it @ 80 mph with the top down. Anyway in years past, when music was imprinted on black disks, I owned a nice 300W Harmon Kardon amp/preamp w/JBL L65 which was a quite good home system for the day. IMO the premium sound is at least equal to that and the small cabin of the Z actually has good acoustics.

Irregardless of the quality of the sound system many times I turn it off and listen to the sweet sounds emanating from the TT exhaust system - which is still my most favorite music.

I had a Quad 405 with JBL Centuries then switched them for Altec "Voice of the Theatre" 's. (in my apartment ) and the miracle is...I'm not deaf today.....I still pass my hearing tests at work..

How did we survive ????

[2011Z4]

Originally Posted by rmorin49

You will likely be disappointed in the BMW sound system. It is not one of the better ones offered in today's automobiles. Even the "premium" system in the Z4 is lacking. The Logic 7 in my 335i was much better. If a sound system is one of the most important facets of your car, you might well look elsewhere. The stereo in my R32 is better than the Z4. Good luck with your choice.

The only two things I will be able to compare it to are the Logic 7 in my BMW 3-series, which sounds fantastic. And then there's the 9-speaker base audio system in the SLK350, which might be the best stock system I've heard yet (no kidding). It was very powerful, crisp, clean and with terrific base also. I was stunned that this was a base unit.

I am not sure the BMW premium sound will be able to compete, but I guess the big test will come this weekend.