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02-18-2014, 08:54 PM | #1 |
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I am in the market for an upgraded intercooler. I've read that some of you have had problems with Stett and I am not sure I want my IC blocking part of my rad. I'm looking towards ER or Wagner. ER looks like quality components and I like the steel plumbing to replace the stock hoses, but Wagner is cheaper with a bigger core. Do you have to remove the front bumper to install the ER? I've heard Wagner is easier to install. Is there much performance difference or does anyone know? Just looking for some advice. Thanks
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02-18-2014, 09:18 PM | #2 |
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I have the Wagner. Took the shop under 45 mins to install. No bumper removal required. No trimming either. Good build. And my butt dyno was thoroughly satisfied after I upgraded from Cobb stage 1 to Cobb Stage 1+FMIC. I've heard it's around a 30hp gain.
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running ER FMIC without complain, it's been rock solid performance. install was easy, included some very minor trimming of plastic parts. but it sits solid once its on.
Cobb Stage 2 + FMIC is very addicting.
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02-19-2014, 04:16 PM | #5 |
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Would also like to know. I am partial to the ER only because I like the idea of using their Z4-specific, metal charge pipe, but if the Wagner is cheaper, easier to install, and requires no trimming, it might be tough to pass that up.
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02-19-2014, 08:23 PM | #6 |
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Interesting you didn't have to take off the bumper or trim. How does it compare to stock, larger, more/ better flow? Can you tell us which version you picked up and from where?
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02-19-2014, 08:59 PM | #7 |
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http://www.wagner-tuning.com/BMW-135...ines_p_42.html
Bought it from here. Got it shipped from Wagner's stateside retailer in Cali. Very well packaged. The Wagner has more surface area than the ER, is $400 cheaper (MSRP), doesn't require trimming, and has great customer service. One could also argue that it performs better. My next step is to get the ER charge pipe with an HKS BOV. I understand that you like the ER better because it has a Z4 specific charge pipe, but that doesn't mean you also have to pay a lot more for an intercooler that does the same or worse than the Wagner. |
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02-20-2014, 12:23 AM | #9 |
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The shop that did my ER install did take off my bumper to trim a bit of plastic off of the front. I also have ER CP with HKS BOV, I'm quite happy with it actually. pretty sure the CP doesn't do anything performance wise but it's nice to listen to.
Was looking to buy Wagner, but got a good deal for the ER FMIC CP BOV combo.
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Nice, ya I've heard the HKS BOV produces a sweet sound...exactly what I'm going for! |
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02-26-2014, 01:11 AM | #13 |
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My ER is on order looking fwd to install this. I will be having the same setup as "Army Men" =)
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02-26-2014, 07:52 AM | #14 |
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Great thread! Since I started reading I've been infatuated with fmic. I had no idea abound Wagner and now I'm seriously thinking of picking one up in a month.
I YouTube'd videos for BMW fmic blowoff valve and while I found 3 series vids there was no luck for quality Z vids. Can any one take a vid, driving with both windows up, down, full boost, and low boost? There's a great one with a 335 manual, but no dct. I think it would be great for the e89 community! |
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Hopefully after i have my suspension done. Im in NYC and we've been bombarded with snow. I only took out the Z once in Feb. It might be awhile since I can enjoy the car as its meant to be.
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cant go wrong with ER
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03-04-2014, 05:37 AM | #18 |
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What is easier to install the ER or the Wagner?
I am looking for the quickest and easiest install (IE without having to remove bumper and modify anything)!! |
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03-04-2014, 01:16 PM | #20 |
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The Wagner unit gets installed in 20 minutes if you know what you 're doing. You 'll get some lag though compared to the stett.
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03-04-2014, 02:25 PM | #21 |
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HPF uses the stock connectors and it is very easy to install. You can get just about any FMIC for the Z4 without cutting because there is so much room.
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03-04-2014, 02:53 PM | #22 |
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ER requires cutting; it specifically says you need to cut to install it. So ER is definitely not the easiest to install.
HPF and Wagner are identical in that they don't require any cutting. Performance is identical as well, but the Wagner is $350 cheaper. I don't know anything about the Stett IC. But I'm sure it's not worth the extra $370 over the Wagner. |
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