3.0 vs 3.5 differences

rmorin49 · 12-02-2009, 09:45 PM

I am driving a 335i vert and about to trade for a Z4. If I go with the 3.0 non turbo model, will I be disappointed. I have found that I never really use the power of the 3.5 in my 3 series. Other than the obvious engine and tranny differences, what else is different among the two models? Any interior differences? Thanks.

bobbydog · 12-03-2009, 02:09 AM

I have a 08 M3 and just got the 3.5 Z4. The Z4 3.5 feels just as powerful as the M3 and much more fun to drive. If you're ready to invest the extra $, get the 3.5. You won't regret it.

tiborakos · 12-03-2009, 02:15 AM

If you want the DCT, you have to go for the 35, as it is only offered with it...

Flash60 · 12-03-2009, 04:02 AM

I went from E90 330 to the Z 35i .. get the 35 or comming from the 335 you will be dissapointed in the power loss ..

Cheers

alan64 · 12-03-2009, 05:25 AM

get it, if just for the double clutch trans,, worth it.

Vintage · 12-03-2009, 07:39 AM

we ordered the 35 for the DCT - if that were available in the 30 we would have seriously looked at that engine due to lighter weight and normal aspiration (awesome sound); that being said, I generally subscribe to the theory that more power is better and we love the twin turbo power

tiborakos · 12-03-2009, 08:57 AM

Same here...plus, there were a couple of extras as standard (in my country) on the 35 that made the price diff between the two look softer...but it was mainly the DCT.

Memphis1 · 12-03-2009, 09:11 AM

not much diff... but overall is lighter, smaller brakes, different gear ratios, the black grills vs chrome grills, the exhaust is two outlets on one side vs two larger ones on each side of the car(different sound too), single zone a/c, better gas mileage and you can't get the Double Clutch tranny.

BlueZ4AZ · 12-03-2009, 10:28 AM

In addition to all the differences everyone has posted already....consider this...

If you want to go from 0-60 in a blistering 4.3 seconds, then consider the 35i
If 6 seconds or so (which is respectable) is OK with you, then consider the 30i.

Vintage · 12-03-2009, 10:40 AM

who the heck is getting 4.3 seconds (is this with launch control after break in???)

BlueZ4AZ · 12-03-2009, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by VintageBMW

who the heck is getting 4.3 seconds (is this with launch control after break in???)

I knew it woldn't take long for someone to ask.

It be true...

http://www.motortrend.com/oftheyear/...09_bmw_z4.html

Memphis1 · 12-03-2009, 10:54 AM

those guys can make typos, there's no way a stock car does 4.3, even the quarter mile is a bit enthusiastic.

Chuck76 · 12-03-2009, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiborakos

If you want the DCT, you have to go for the 35, as it is only offered with it...

I have a 3.5 with manual. Is it only in Europe that it only comes with DCT and no manual as an option?

juhap · 12-03-2009, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck76

I have a 3.5 with manual. Is it only in Europe that it only comes with DCT and no manual as an option?

What he means is that you can get DCT only with the 3.5 (instead of you can get the 3.5 only with DCT). I live in Europe and have ordered the 3.5 with a manual gearbox.

BlueZ4AZ · 12-03-2009, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by memphis2012

those guys can make typos, there's no way a stock car does 4.3, even the quarter mile is a bit enthusiastic.

All their test figures seem jive. They can't all be typos.
A 12.9 sec 1/4 mile at 107.9 mph is very consistent with a 4.3 sec 0-60 time.

Before the Z4 I had a 2007 Corvette with the Z51 and the 0-60 was 4.1 seconds with the Corvette. My Z4 feels almost as fast as the Corvette did to 60. Maybe just a hair slower, that's all.

Plus, if a 2010 Boxster S with only 270 torque and 320 HP (or whatever the exact figure is) can hit 60 in 4.3 with it's PDK transmission, then there is absolutely no reason why the Z4 with DCT can't.

With all the technology, simple power to weight ratios are no longer the best way to determine how fast a car "might be".

The MT test figures prove that.

Raja Ventureshield · 12-03-2009, 11:45 AM

i have driven the 35 and it was nice.

Randall,

let me know how much you are selling the e93 for.
thanks!

Raja

jlstyle · 12-03-2009, 12:00 PM

WTF?
Z4 3.5 does 4.3 on 0-60??????????????????
Wow I hardly can believe it.....
4.3...........????????????????????

Memphis1 · 12-03-2009, 12:05 PM

As soon as I break in my car I'll test it... 4.3 sounds crazy that would be 9 tenths faster than BMW figures.

BlueZ4AZ · 12-03-2009, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jlstyle

WTF?
Z4 3.5 does 4.3 on 0-60??????????????????
Wow I hardly can believe it.....
4.3...........????????????????????

According to the rigorous Motor Trend road tests - it be true.

Rubber Ducky · 12-03-2009, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rmorin49

I am driving a 335i vert and about to trade for a Z4. If I go with the 3.0 non turbo model, will I be disappointed. I have found that I never really use the power of the 3.5 in my 3 series. Other than the obvious engine and tranny differences, what else is different among the two models? Any interior differences? Thanks.

Shipmate: If you're gonna be a bear, be a grizzly! (DCT alone makes the 35i worth it).

bobbydog · 12-03-2009, 01:21 PM

I raced against Z4 3.5 using my M3. The Z4 can keep up with the M3 until around 90mph.
The M3 has a 414hp V8 but only 295lb-ft... car weight 3726lbs
Z4 3.5 has a 300hp I6 with 300lb-ft.... car weight 3450lbs

Memphis1 · 12-03-2009, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbydog

I raced against Z4 3.5 using my M3. The Z4 can keep up with the M3 until around 90mph.
The M3 has a 414hp V8 but only 295lb-ft... car weight 3726lbs
Z4 3.5 has a 300hp I6 with 300lb-ft.... car weight 3450lbs

you guys are getting me excited... (not that way) if 4.3 is true than i got more than what i bargain for and that's AWESOME!!!

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Flash60 New Member 0 Rep 14 Posts Drives: Z4 sDrive35 Saph Black Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Melbourne iTrader: (0)	I went from E90 330 to the Z 35i .. get the 35 or comming from the 335 you will be dissapointed in the power loss .. Cheers
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alan64 Lieutenant 19 Rep 484 Posts Drives: z4 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: canada iTrader: (0)	get it, if just for the double clutch trans,, worth it.
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Vintage Colonel 381 Rep 2,588 Posts Drives: BMW G80 (MT), 718 Spyder Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Austin, Texas iTrader: (0)	we ordered the 35 for the DCT - if that were available in the 30 we would have seriously looked at that engine due to lighter weight and normal aspiration (awesome sound); that being said, I generally subscribe to the theory that more power is better and we love the twin turbo power
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tiborakos Private First Class 13 Rep 135 Posts Drives: Z4 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: GR iTrader: (0)	Same here...plus, there were a couple of extras as standard (in my country) on the 35 that made the price diff between the two look softer...but it was mainly the DCT.
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Memphis1 Lieutenant Colonel 91 Rep 1,838 Posts Drives: Z4 SDrive 35i Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: CT iTrader: (0)	not much diff... but overall is lighter, smaller brakes, different gear ratios, the black grills vs chrome grills, the exhaust is two outlets on one side vs two larger ones on each side of the car(different sound too), single zone a/c, better gas mileage and you can't get the Double Clutch tranny. __________________ Last edited by Memphis1; 02-18-2011 at 10:16 PM..
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BlueZ4AZ Go SU 33 Rep 902 Posts Drives: 2009 Z4 sDrive35i Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Chandler, AZ iTrader: (0)	In addition to all the differences everyone has posted already....consider this... If you want to go from 0-60 in a blistering 4.3 seconds, then consider the 35i If 6 seconds or so (which is respectable) is OK with you, then consider the 30i.
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Vintage Colonel 381 Rep 2,588 Posts Drives: BMW G80 (MT), 718 Spyder Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Austin, Texas iTrader: (0)	who the heck is getting 4.3 seconds (is this with launch control after break in???)
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Memphis1 Lieutenant Colonel 91 Rep 1,838 Posts Drives: Z4 SDrive 35i Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: CT iTrader: (0)	those guys can make typos, there's no way a stock car does 4.3, even the quarter mile is a bit enthusiastic. __________________
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Raja Ventureshield Major General 288 Rep 5,686 Posts Drives: BMW M3 coupe Join Date: May 2007 Location: Northern VA iTrader: (6)	i have driven the 35 and it was nice. Randall, let me know how much you are selling the e93 for. thanks! Raja
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Memphis1 Lieutenant Colonel 91 Rep 1,838 Posts Drives: Z4 SDrive 35i Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: CT iTrader: (0)	As soon as I break in my car I'll test it... 4.3 sounds crazy that would be 9 tenths faster than BMW figures. __________________
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bobbydog Private First Class 10 Rep 105 Posts Drives: E90 M3 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (0)	I raced against Z4 3.5 using my M3. The Z4 can keep up with the M3 until around 90mph. The M3 has a 414hp V8 but only 295lb-ft... car weight 3726lbs Z4 3.5 has a 300hp I6 with 300lb-ft.... car weight 3450lbs
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