Another one: Scathing review from Daily Telegraph UK for 35is + a nice one

Alext · 08-04-2010, 10:23 PM

Ouch: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/...is-review.html

Dr Stig 2 · 08-04-2010, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Alext

Ouch: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/...is-review.html

Have you retired Alex, or has your productivity dropped significantly since you ordered the 35is?

Mr Breeze may be able to commiserate with you there... But at least he only has two days to go.

Oh, and the reference to "overtaking animals" I found mildly amusing. Very Romanian. Perhaps even Roman.

tranquility · 08-04-2010, 11:40 PM

He started losing credibility when he thought he's driving a 3.5 liter. Also, how can he not be able to read the dials? Guy must be semi-blind. 2/5...wow....

Alext · 08-05-2010, 12:37 AM

hey hey don't shoot the messenger! I think you are right Stig, I'm getting lazy and stale in my old age with nothing better to think about/do haha !

Alext · 08-05-2010, 03:15 AM

In the interest of balance, here is a rather nice recent review: http://www.latimes.com/business/auto...,4924430.story

Dr Stig 2 · 08-05-2010, 03:48 AM

I like this one as well, but probably because it reviews a Ferrari California...
One day, my prince will come...

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/carrevi...ts_tested.html

Memphis1 · 08-05-2010, 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Stig 2

One day, my prince will come.

Uh.... What?!?!?!

BlueZ4AZ · 08-05-2010, 08:52 AM

The only review I put any real value in before purchasing my 35i was my own. Potential 35is owners ought to do the same.

SCBMW02 · 08-05-2010, 09:05 AM

Jeez, another this ain't a Boxster article!! Unless you are on the track who gives a rip if the Boxster handles better! In the real world the Z4is looks better, handles way better than most will ever need, great engine and sound and is just a blast to drive. If I really need perhaps a few more hundredths g's of grip I will go back to the M3!

mcbeee · 08-05-2010, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueZ4AZ

The only review I put any real value in before purchasing my 35i was my own. Potential 35is owners ought to do the same.

EXACTLY !!! My thoughts to a tee...

I paid 75 grand for my review, he might have got a grand to do his. What's worth more?

bill123 · 08-05-2010, 09:34 AM

1/ Don't know which iS he drove but mine only has a 3.0 litre engine and not a 3.5

2/ I don't get any booming at 2500-3000 revs.

3/ No tramlining whatsoever on 19" wheel's

4/ Do agree the car accelerates violently, (It should do)

Don't think this guy likes BM's

BlueZ4AZ · 08-05-2010, 03:04 PM

The writer of the article, Andrew English, is a perfect F%ktard.
I hope you Google yourself and see this, you ignoramus.

Here let me make it easier for you to find this via Google, you idiot.......... Andrew English drives the latest top-model Z4

tranquility · 08-05-2010, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueZ4AZ

The only review I put any real value in before purchasing my 35i was my own. Potential 35is owners ought to do the same.

+1

"Scathing" is an understatement; that guy really went out of his way to rip BMW a new one.

Dr Stig 2 · 08-05-2010, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Memphis1

Uh.... What?!?!?!

Memphis, you are obviously not a Disney fan...

Alext · 08-05-2010, 05:45 PM

I totally agree with what has been said above. I feel there is too much disparity in the reviews for them to be accurate.

I remember nearly all the reviews of the twin-turbo 135i were overwhelmingly positive. Almost unbelievably so. If you were totally naive about cars, read them and compared it to the Z4 reviews you would conclude the 135i is a far superior car! When I finally got to drive the 135i (and own one) I immediately realised that the reviews were, shall I say, a bit too positive...

tranquility · 08-05-2010, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Alext

I totally agree with what has been said above. I feel there is too much disparity in the reviews for them to be accurate.

I remember nearly all the reviews of the twin-turbo 135i were overwhelmingly positive. Almost unbelievably so. If you were totally naive about cars, read them and compared it to the Z4 reviews you would conclude the 135i is a far superior car! When I finally got to drive the 135i (and own one) I immediately realised that the reviews were, shall I say, a bit too positive...

OT: how would you compare those 2? I've been curious about the 135i since they're almost everywhere here! Seems like a potent pocket-rocket that could nip the Z4 in terms of performance?

Alext · 08-05-2010, 10:43 PM

It's a very valid question Tranquility.

The 135i is a solid performer no doubt. However what lets it down in my opinion is its handling. It exhibits quite a bit of body roll. I havent driven a 35is yet but from the videos I have seen it would have less than the 135i. Also the steering does feel a little vague too.

If you made a few suspension mods + tires the 135i would be vastly improved.

In a straight line a DCT 35i would be quicker. I had a manual and can safely say that. The BMW manual shifter on the 135i is actually quite pleasing to use; smooth, fast and precise.

Brakes are fantastic on the 135i.

Boot space and comfort are good. Had a few creaks and a tailight go out, but nothing major.

For the price the 135i is great value, esp in Australia where they are around $75k on the road new with a bit of bargaining. (In comparison you can get a Z4 35is for around $130k on the road). So that is around $50k more for the Z4!

So this is one major reason why the 135i is sooo popular: it is a relatively cheap entry to BMW with the blooming amazing powerhouse of a N54 engine! With a tune like the JB3 you have a very economical way of blowing away most cars on the road in comfort and style at the traffic lights.

The reason why I decided to change was my need for something sportier that was a 2-seater convertible but also comfortable for longer journeys. The 135i just didnt feel sporty enough to keep me engaged whilst driving it. (I have had a bit of a small history with sports cars). Although it is a nice, how can I say, sporty cruiser.

tranquility · 08-05-2010, 10:48 PM

^Thx for your review. Did you have a coupe or cab for the 135i? I guess you have a 35i now?

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Alext Banned 138 Rep 2,042 Posts Drives: B M W Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Everest iTrader: (2)	In the interest of balance, here is a rather nice recent review: http://www.latimes.com/business/auto...,4924430.story
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Dr Stig 2 Criminally Insane 53 Rep 1,464 Posts Drives: Like a Demon! Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Brisbane, Australia iTrader: (0) Garage List 2010 BMW Z4 35is [10.00] 2013 BMW X5 30d [0.00]	I like this one as well, but probably because it reviews a Ferrari California... One day, my prince will come... http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/carrevi...ts_tested.html __________________ Dr Stig 2010 Z4 35is 2011 X3 30d M Sport Australia
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BlueZ4AZ Go SU 33 Rep 902 Posts Drives: 2009 Z4 sDrive35i Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Chandler, AZ iTrader: (0)	The only review I put any real value in before purchasing my 35i was my own. Potential 35is owners ought to do the same.
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bill123 Private First Class 6 Rep 131 Posts Drives: Z4 35iS Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: England iTrader: (0)	1/ Don't know which iS he drove but mine only has a 3.0 litre engine and not a 3.5 2/ I don't get any booming at 2500-3000 revs. 3/ No tramlining whatsoever on 19" wheel's 4/ Do agree the car accelerates violently, (It should do) Don't think this guy likes BM's __________________ 35iS, Deep Sea Blue, 19" 326 alloys, etc
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BlueZ4AZ Go SU 33 Rep 902 Posts Drives: 2009 Z4 sDrive35i Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Chandler, AZ iTrader: (0)	The writer of the article, Andrew English, is a perfect F%ktard. I hope you Google yourself and see this, you ignoramus. Here let me make it easier for you to find this via Google, you idiot.......... Andrew English drives the latest top-model Z4
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Alext Banned 138 Rep 2,042 Posts Drives: B M W Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Everest iTrader: (2)	I totally agree with what has been said above. I feel there is too much disparity in the reviews for them to be accurate. I remember nearly all the reviews of the twin-turbo 135i were overwhelmingly positive. Almost unbelievably so. If you were totally naive about cars, read them and compared it to the Z4 reviews you would conclude the 135i is a far superior car! When I finally got to drive the 135i (and own one) I immediately realised that the reviews were, shall I say, a bit too positive...
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Alext Banned 138 Rep 2,042 Posts Drives: B M W Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Everest iTrader: (2)	It's a very valid question Tranquility. The 135i is a solid performer no doubt. However what lets it down in my opinion is its handling. It exhibits quite a bit of body roll. I havent driven a 35is yet but from the videos I have seen it would have less than the 135i. Also the steering does feel a little vague too. If you made a few suspension mods + tires the 135i would be vastly improved. In a straight line a DCT 35i would be quicker. I had a manual and can safely say that. The BMW manual shifter on the 135i is actually quite pleasing to use; smooth, fast and precise. Brakes are fantastic on the 135i. Boot space and comfort are good. Had a few creaks and a tailight go out, but nothing major. For the price the 135i is great value, esp in Australia where they are around $75k on the road new with a bit of bargaining. (In comparison you can get a Z4 35is for around $130k on the road). So that is around $50k more for the Z4! So this is one major reason why the 135i is sooo popular: it is a relatively cheap entry to BMW with the blooming amazing powerhouse of a N54 engine! With a tune like the JB3 you have a very economical way of blowing away most cars on the road in comfort and style at the traffic lights. The reason why I decided to change was my need for something sportier that was a 2-seater convertible but also comfortable for longer journeys. The 135i just didnt feel sporty enough to keep me engaged whilst driving it. (I have had a bit of a small history with sports cars). Although it is a nice, how can I say, sporty cruiser. Last edited by Alext; 08-05-2010 at 10:52 PM..
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tranquility sportscars only 3242 Rep 3,194 Posts Drives: 2011 Z4 sDrive 35i Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Montréal iTrader: (0)	^Thx for your review. Did you have a coupe or cab for the 135i? I guess you have a 35i now?
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