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      07-28-2011, 12:39 PM   #23
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I've read that cars delivered to the North American market will not have this option, and if they do there is a switch (right beside the start button) to turn this feature on or off.
ROLF... The US spec cars will have the feature of the start/stop technology...There WILL be a button however to turn the feature off if you dont like it!

I am checking on rates and residuals for the 2012... Will keep you guys posted as soon as they get released!

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      07-28-2011, 05:14 PM   #24
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OK, let me get this straight. Keeping the hard top, getting rid of the in line 6 that has proven itself over and over for a measly 4 cylinder and a dual mouse fly wheel? BMW is going backwards on this car.

1. Get rid of the hard top crap, its a rag top car.
2. Put one awesome motor in it not two.
3. Fix the rear end, it's too fat.
4. Make a M Model
5. Call me when all the above happens.

Happy Motoring.
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      07-28-2011, 05:26 PM   #25
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      07-28-2011, 07:41 PM   #26
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      07-28-2011, 08:02 PM   #27
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      07-28-2011, 09:07 PM   #28
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Amazing that a BASE Z4 now in 2012 costs what a Z4M cost in 2006 (counting discounts at the time).


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      07-28-2011, 11:37 PM   #29
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Amazing that new I-4 28i's base is $48,650 whereas current I-6 30i is $47,450. So, it cost more to own a 4 banger. errrr....
a 4 banger that is quicker and more efficient...


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Amazing that a BASE Z4 now in 2012 costs what a Z4M cost in 2006 (counting discounts at the time).


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Well you have to take into account about 4% inflation per year, plus the loss of US dollar vs the Euro.


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OK, let me get this straight. Keeping the hard top, getting rid of the in line 6 that has proven itself over and over for a measly 4 cylinder and a dual mouse fly wheel? BMW is going backwards on this car.

1. Get rid of the hard top crap, its a rag top car.
2. Put one awesome motor in it not two.
3. Fix the rear end, it's too fat.
4. Make a M Model
5. Call me when all the above happens.

Happy Motoring.
Sorry I can't agree with you

I will never ever buy another rag top, that's yesterday's technology.

I'm frustrated the new S5 is a rag top, the new 6 is a rag top, the new E vert is a rag top...really aggravates me

I wanted to get a E vert instead of another Z4 (I like to change things up, I love the new Z4 but I like having different cars, hence why I lease), but it's a damn rag top so it's useless.

I do have to agree that having a M model would be great


But you have to have 2 motors in a model line up. One that's fast, one that's not as fast :P
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      07-29-2011, 12:38 AM   #30
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I'm trading in my 2010 Z4 for a 2012 Porsche Cayenne S this Saturday....
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      07-29-2011, 06:07 AM   #31
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I've read that cars delivered to the North American market will not have this option, and if they do there is a switch (right beside the start button) to turn this feature on or off.
thats true, i heard that theres a switch to turn that feature off
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      07-29-2011, 09:08 AM   #32
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Amazing that a BASE Z4 now in 2012 costs what a Z4M cost in 2006 (counting discounts at the time).


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That's why it was a slow seller and BMW had to kick in some major incentives.
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      07-29-2011, 09:55 AM   #33
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I'm trading in my 2010 Z4 for a 2012 Porsche Cayenne S this Saturday....
Congratulations ... I hear it is a fine car
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      07-29-2011, 10:10 AM   #34
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That's why it was a slow seller and BMW had to kick in some major incentives.
I've actually heard that in 2007, people were able to purchase their almost fully optioned M coupes for less than 45,000. Definitely a car whose production ultimately exceeded its demand.
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      07-29-2011, 11:41 AM   #35
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dam still overpriced I want one. . . . .
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You have no idea how many times I've heard that about the garage. It's my gf's moms house (and stepdad). The stupid thing is it USED to be a 2 car garage before he took it over and built some stupid desk so he can work on his bike (bicycle not a motor bike). And all his crap is on the other side so now it's a 1 car garage. If you think that ceiling is bad you should see the rest :s

Thanks for the compliment though

Wet sanding and buffing sounds like either it'll be expensive or if I attempted it I'd screw it up royally
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      07-29-2011, 10:32 PM   #37
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You have no idea how many times I've heard that about the garage. It's my gf's moms house (and stepdad). The stupid thing is it USED to be a 2 car garage before he took it over and built some stupid desk so he can work on his bike (bicycle not a motor bike). And all his crap is on the other side so now it's a 1 car garage. If you think that ceiling is bad you should see the rest :s

Thanks for the compliment though

Wet sanding and buffing sounds like either it'll be expensive or if I attempted it I'd screw it up royally
uhhhhhh, what?
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      07-31-2011, 10:14 AM   #38
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$50k for a turbo4?

Damn that sounds like a tough sale in the US. Just saying...
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      07-31-2011, 09:52 PM   #39
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So.....the new base engine is 240HP instead of 255HP? I guess the new engine is lighter.....but you are loosing 15 HP.....how is this better performance? Just asking.
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...It's a bit annoying for those us who had to pay for every one of those items up until now...I cannot help but feeling a bit ripped off...I can tell you with all certainty that when you buy a Mercedes not only do they offer you more standard features but those that you do buy you can be confident that they will not be free the next year.
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So.....the new base engine is 240HP instead of 255HP? I guess the new engine is lighter.....but you are loosing 15 HP.....how is this better performance? Just asking.
new engine is 260 hp replacing 230 hp 6cyl
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      08-01-2011, 12:14 PM   #42
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new engine is 260 hp replacing 230 hp 6cyl

No, it's 240 HP and 260 Tq and still a 4 cyl. Gives new meaning to Z (4)
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No, it's 240 HP and 260 Tq and still a 4 cyl. Gives new meaning to Z (4)
yeah, mixed up
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Its still a 4 cyc. I don't care how much extra stuff you put on it, it still don't beat displacement.

If I wanted a car with a 4 banger I would have bought a Honda.
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