IDK.... so get this... my buddy went to China and his guide brought him out, etc.... and they met a guy who worked for North Face. My buddy asked him about the fakes here in the states and the guy told him that during what we might consider a (3rd shift) --> so very late at night, they quickly produce goods for the purpose of export and quick sale when the bosses are out.
That said, the rush job makes 'em have loose string etc and we can buy cheaper.
IDK the truth of it or what... but I have seen what he brought back and you cannot tell the difference.....
heck 80$ is no stretch of the dollar... give it a try and let us know
