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Originally Posted by BMWZ4RIDER
As I was hammered for my love of Horsepower, god forbid and some here seem to feel its a bad thing, hence the statement:
"I thought people here were educated enough to know that high horsepower is all an advertising scam"
I bet all those lucky people who drop, sometimes millions on there cars for the Excessive Horespower cars don't think their cars are advertising scams.
I FULLY realize that MOST of these examples are not real life, but I have to still dream-
LET THE HAMMERING BEGIN::
Bugatti Veryon Super Sport at 1200 HP
Dodge Viper- the coupe, the Viper's 640-bhp 8.4-liter V-10 and 6-speed Tremec
2013 Shelby 1000 HP SC Officially released
McLaren P1- The 3.8-liter eight-cylinder produces 727 hp and 531 lb-ft
Ferrari HP History
Alright, here are some of my additions off the top of my head: (all numbers US spec)
300hp, 348TB 1989-1993
320hp 348GTB 1993-1995
380hp, F355 1994-1999
420hp Challenge Stradale 2003-2004 (some post production cars in 2005)
460hp California 2009- (upgraded to 490hp in 2012)
478hp F40 1987-1992
508hp 575 2002-2006
510hp 430 Scuderia 2007-2009
520hp F50 1995-1997
540hp 612 2004-2010
611hp 599GTB 2005-2012
651hp FF 2011-
660hp Enzo 2002-2004 (some post production cars up to 2008)
661hp 599GTO 2010-2012
Top 100 Highest Horsepower cars available- BMW is at least represented in the top 100 with 4 entries:
100- 2010 BMW X5 M — 555 horsepower at 6,000 rpm:
94-92. 2013 BMW M6 Grand Coupe — 560 hp at 6,000 rpm
94-92. (Tie) 2013 BMW M6 — 560 hp at 6,000 rpm
94-92. (Tie) 2013 BMW M5 — 560 hp at 6,000
90. 2010 Lamborghini Gallardo LP570-4 Superleggera — 562 hp at 8,000 rpm
80. 2007 Caparo T1 — 575 hp at 10,000 rpm:
70. 2013 Mercedes-Benz G65 AMG — 603 hp at 4,800 rpm
60. 2005 Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren — 617 hp at 6,500 rpm:
50. 2006 Ascari A10 — 625 hp at 7,500 rpm:
46. 2009 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 — 638 hp at 6,500 rpm
40. 2006 Gumpert Apollo — 641 hp at 6,000 rpm
30. 2012 Lamborghini Aventador LP700-4 — 690 hp at 8,250 rpm
20. 2013 Gumpert Apollo S — 750 hp at 6,000 rpm
10. 2006 Bristol Fighter T — 1,012 hp at 5,600 rpm
1. 2009 SSC Ultimate Aero — 1,287 hp at 6,075 rpm
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The extensive list you compiled (very impressive, unless you just copied it from elsewhere, but regardless) just further proves my statement. First of all, take a look at those cars. 9.5/10 of them are more of a status vehicle more than anything. Just like how 9.5/10 of them are status cars, I probably wouldn't be too far off from the fact to say that 9.5/10 of the owners didn't get the car for its performance either, rather for the "look at my 1,000 horsepower car." Of course they don't feel scammed. It achieved exactly what they wanted it to; show off to their friends their horsepower. Hence, going back to my argument that horsepower is more of an e-peen booster than a real indication of performance.
Don't get me wrong, when I said "horsepower is a advertising scam," I would be a fool to actually think HP means nothing. In fact, it goes hand-in-hand with torque and ultimately power. Hell, they are directly dependent on and affect each other. However, companies advertising the "we have more horsepower, which means we are faster" is what I was referring to as being a "scam." And its just sad to see that so many people are taking into this misconception.
With that said, there are definitely a few cars on that list that I would most certainly <dream about> buying if I had the money. However, I feel like the difference for me is that I am attracted to the car from more of a design standpoint rather the the sheer number itself. But then again, my car "only" has 300HP so what do I know
On a related note, it's funny to see so many people obsessed with horsepower and 0-60 times even though torque is way more indicative of a 0-60 time. That, is advertisement at its best.
I don't know if what I'm saying is coming through (long day at work...) but an analogy that might be easier to understand for you because it is within your field is wattage vs. lumens. Everyone tries to tell you that their bulbs are brighter because they have higher wattage, when in fact it is lumens that really dictate "brightness." However, that is not to say wattage is meaningless because alas, it is directly related to lumens as well.